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I was eating some chocolate when I imagined a world where Hershey's was widely accepted, even by elitists, as the best chocolate.

Is consumer elitism just a facade for pretentious contrarians? Or are there things where even most snobs agree with the masses?

Also, I mean that the product is intrinsically considered to be the best option. I'm not considering social products where the user network makes the experience.

Edit: I was not eating Hershey's. Hershey's being the best chocolate is a bizarro universe in this hypothetical.

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[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

MacBooks.

Plenty of reasons to hate Apple as a company but the hardware and build quality of MacBooks really is second to none. I know several Linux/OSS die-hards who swear by their M1 MBPs.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Wake me up when you can repair one without Apple's hostility and replace storage and RAM without a soldering iron. Hard pass.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 6 days ago

Tons of Windows based laptops have soldered storage and ram, though.

But you'll pay extra just because it's Apple

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago

I can attest to this for older models. It's really hard to know if standards have slipped in their luxury product era, though.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My over 10 year old ThinkPad disagrees. The abuse it has put up with while still working puts macbooks to shame.

I know, the newer ThinkPads aren't what they used to be, but I have a pretty new one as my work computer, and it still doesn't let the MacBooks off the hook.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The MacBook I'm typing on (in Linux) beats you by a few years more.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago

2011 Macbook gang rise up!

I don't use mine that much these days, but it's still going strong. Two SSDs, 16GB RAM, and it's running Arch(btw). The thing won't die.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but I mean... Has it survived a fall from about a meter onto a concrete floor, a fall from an overhead luggage rack, as well as a number of other falls I don't remember, all without a case - and a bicycle accident (that time in a laptop bag)?

That's what I mean. Just about any computer will last 15 years if handled carefully, but surviving a lot of active use and abuse, that's another story.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I could totally believe that ThinkPads are more rugged under actual abuse. I don't think Apple tries to be, really.

That being said, I have plenty of other younger laptops around that have been reduced to server usage do to falling apart. Apple's early adoption of SSD also helps.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I full heartily disagree because MacBooks are a trap: While I agree with you in terms of production quality it's a point of no return for a lot of use cases which rarely makes it the best option in my opinion.

It's basically eliminating too many options down the road for it to be a good recommendation for most people for me. There are exceptions of course but i couldn't call it "best" with good conscience.

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right. Of the major operating systems, I think none of them are good answers for this. Too close of a market share to really be in the spirit of the question, and they all really do hit different markets.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Agreed - and none of them are a catch-all answer suited for everyone from my point of view.