I don't like ARs because of the apple-on-the-post iron sights they have and the minor ptsd I have of being forced to clean one manually to perfection for an entire night and morning with nothing but my hands, a torn chunk of shirt, and a box of q-tips. The star chamber was the devil's asshole. My pinky fingers have calluses because of it and it was where I spent the majority of the time cleaning.

7dorkassfish doesn't like it because it doesn't have all the snivel gear on it to coddle the firearm owner.

All you fundamentally need to know is how to use and zero in the iron sights and make consistent groupings at 300m from standing, crouching, prone, and after moving around to get winded, then you'll have more solid foundations to build on and be able to run circles around any gunfucker that only "trains" for making vanity tik tok videos

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

irons are obsolescent. red dots are cheap enough, reliable enough, and faster to pick up.

cost is only a factor if you also can't afford ammo for training, and if you can't train you might not want the gun at all.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No they're not. if you can't comprehend how to use and sight in irons for basic marksmanship you'll be struggling to hit a tree in the middle of a forest with an actual scope you have to dial in. The most important principle of firearm use is putting rounds on target accurately and the most important principle of firearm combat is to always engage in favorable conditions.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago

a red dot isn't a magnified scope and you'd have to do windage and elevation on adjustable irons anyway.

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