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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Western organizations have found that over 90% of the population approve the government, which is shown to be consistent and accurate. This isn't coming from the government, but from western orgs directly asking Chinese people. Further, despite evidence that the government of China isn't lying about public ownership being principle, and the transparent form of democracy we can view, you still don't trust the government's claims either!

I do disagree with what the majority of the west says about a different country that they've mythologized for centuries, yes. That's not dehumanizing the west, it's acknowledging a different class interest. You're disagreeing with what Chinese people say about themselves, and are framing it as them being brainwashed into doing so, incapable of thinking for themselves.

Explain your views, why isn’t China socialist despite public ownership being principle and the working classes controlling the state?

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That blogsite doesnt have direct links to the sources, do you?

So you can disagree but I can't, interesting point of view.

Mind you, you have only talked about government approval so far, not perception of the state as socialist or not. But let me entertain you and pretend that is true (even though it is absurd). Lets also pretend that disagreeing with someone (only when it is me, you can apparently) dehumanizes people. 80% of the chinese people believe the country is a socialist country, disagreeing with them constitutes disagreeing with 80% of the country (by your flawed logic), does that me I dehumanized the ENTIRETY of the chinese people?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It does have direct links, like to Harvard here. There's a major difference with disagreeing with everything the majority of Chinese people say about themselves, and with disagreeing with what the majority of Statesians say about Chinese people. Disagreement itself isn't wrong, it's disagreeing with easily verifiable statistics and facts regarding ownership and support.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lmao, reducing Jason Hickel, a world renowned economic anthropologist, to 'just a blogsite' is hilarious.

Just a quick background from his wiki

Jason Edward Hickel[2] (born 1982) is a Swazi economic anthropologist, academic and democratic eco-socialist.[3] He is a professor at the Institute of Environmental Science & Technology (ICTA-UAB) at the Autonomous University of Barcelona,[4] a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, a visiting senior fellow at the International Inequalities Institute at the London School of Economics, and was the Chair of Global Justice and the Environment at the University of Oslo.[5] He serves on the Climate and Macroeconomics Roundtable of the US National Academy of Sciences.[6]