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I distro hopped for a bit before finally settling in Debian (because Debian was always mentioned as a distro good for servers, or stable machines that are ok with outdated software)

And while I get that Debian does have software that isn't as up to date, I've never felt that the software was that outdated. Before landing on Debian, I always ran into small hiccups that caused me issues as a new Linux user - but when I finally switched over to Debian, everything just worked! Especially now with Debian 13.

So my question is: why does Debian always get dismissed as inferior for everyday drivers, and instead mint, Ubuntu, or even Zorin get recommended? Is there something I am missing, or does it really just come down to people not wanting software that isn't "cutting edge" release?

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

I've used it for a few years. What issue does it have for a desktop? I've had everything "just work".

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 6 hours ago

Old packages in repos. I tried some stuff on LLM and VR and ubuntu had package more updated than Debian. That sad you have to reinstall Ubuntu each time you have to do a security update...

[–] mech@feddit.org 33 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

There is absolutely no issue with it.
But there are lots of other distros that add things to it which are great for desktop.
GUI tools for driver installation and kernel switching, snapshots, preinstalled Steam+Wine+Codecs+Flatpak, newer and more software, atomic updates, a faster package manager, more third party support, etc.

Debian is better than it ever was, but so are lots of other distros, especially the ones that build on it.
Nowadays you really have the choice between "good" and "better".

[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 4 points 2 hours ago

My parents for example do not care about tools for drivers installation (everything works just fine already), they don't know what a kernel is (so there's no need to switch), snapshots/Flatpak/Steam/Wine/faster package manager are not important (they don't know what any of that is).

They use a browser and occasionally a text editor, that's it. Debian + GNOME works really well for them.

Often something simple is just right.

[–] wilmo@lemmy.ml 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Debian might work but it will always be behind and if any performance upgrades are done at a kernel level or a DE then you won't get them until those fixes are potentially already obsolete.

[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Debian is not behind. Changed enter the repos pretty quickly and every 25 months you get a release. Which is perfect, as it means I don't have to maintenance for my mother that often.

Still there are security patches.

If you want the newest shiny stuff, use Testing or Unstable. I've done that for years, for that is not the right choice for everyone, as things change on the time. And I don't get paid for the tech support I do for my family, so I'd rather see them have larger changes less often. Family would agree, as they find it difficult to learn how to deal with the changes.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Even Debian unstable can be months behind a lot of fixes for gaming related things.

VR for example is a fucking nightmare in general but God FUCK you wait months behind fedora or arch for a lot of fixes on Debian.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

then why do people suggest Mint so often? especially to gamers who often have new hardware

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

Because till recently gaming on Linux was a f****** joke and meant being really easy to install and basically a derivative of Ubuntu without having to deal with canonical made it a popular choice for all of the long-time Linux uses. So it's just what they suggested.

In reality meant is no better than just telling people to install Ubuntu or Debian if they want to game. If you just play older games then it's whatever and it doesn't really matter. But if you're trying to do some niche gaming like VR or something, basically anything that uses apt is a massive pain in the f****** ass

Sure it works but you almost always end up waiting months longer than everyone else for fixes and considering some things can get updated multiple times a week for major fixes. Having to wait months for a big cumulative thing is just not okay.

Definitely! So if you're using specialized hardware or software or third-party apps. A lot of stuff has actually gone to the point where they don't even support Debian and Ubuntu or other activate systems. They only support Fedora or Arch

Since those are the only ones that really ever have a up-to-date libraries to actually be usable for purpose without having to do a bunch of funky s***.

Debian like normal is your best option if it works for you, it is the most reliable that you can really get. But the moment something is outside of scope of it. You're almost always better off just using literally anything f****** else.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Mint is Debian based but isn't Debian.

Same with Ubuntu.

The reason people recommend mint is it's easy to install and has a familiar DE.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 10 hours ago

I was talking about the update timing, Mint isn't very up to date which can have downsides

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago

GPU drivers and DEs lagging behind, mostly.

Something like Fedora which releases newer code quicker will provide a better desktop/laptop experience. It’s the same reason other stable distros, like the EL distros, aren’t the best for desktops/laptops.

Historically, desktop applications would also be versions behind, but Flatpak really helps with this.

At this point, Debian is probably fine as a distro for a few year old computer that won’t be helped by fractional scaling. Pick a DE and install applications from Flathub.