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[โ€“] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

When will it support GrapheneOS? I'm going to keep using last-gen used Pixels until another company comes up with an alternative.

[โ€“] NGram@piefed.ca 28 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS has some very strict requirements which basically means they will refuse to support anything except Pixel phones. Fairphone isn't in the business of making their own (security) chips so I doubt the Graphene team will ever consider them.

CalyxOS, arguably the next best thing, did have support for earlier Fairphones but that project is sort of in limbo now.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 28 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The Graphene team has also been very outspoken about how much they dislike Fairphone for this very reason.

I use /e/OS on my Fairphone 5. It's not a Graphene alternative as it's not a hardened OS, it's just Android without Google. Good enough for me, I'm not afraid of secret agents stealing my phone to extract data or whatever, I just don't want American big tech anywhere near my phone.

[โ€“] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

to be fair I don't think they like anything besides Google Pixel.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 22 seconds ago

Yeah, this is true. They just seem to have a specific beef against Fairphone and /e/OS because it's presented as a privacy alternative (due to no big tech tracking), and the Graphene team believes they are the only ones with the security features to ensure true privacy (because of their... hardened malloc?).

[โ€“] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Same. Like, I can tolerate hackers more than big tech. What is the deal with the security chips? I don't want some shitty fuse or anything in my phone.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 6 minutes ago

They (Graphene) have very strong ideas about security, and argue that Google Pixel devices are the only ones that can truly be unhackable enough because of some feature of hardware design. I have read it a bunch of times and I still don't understand, but I'm sure there's a valid point there somewhere. It has nothing to do with security as in safety, but relates to some sort of local hacking that requires access to the device I believe.

Really nothing to worry about unless you have very specific needs, in my opinion. But there are some people who feel very strongly about it, though without ever being able to clearly express their precise concerns in a coherent way.

[โ€“] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, I ran Calyx for a while - it was... not a great user experience. If I am forced to change at some point, I'll reconsider it. That said, Graphene's trying to move off of the Pixel platform. I just haven't looked to see if there are any updates since that piece of info reached me.

I was about to say the same thing!

[โ€“] yakko@feddit.uk 4 points 14 hours ago

I'm coming at the same desire from the other end, using my fairphone until I can jump ship for graphene.