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I totally feel that guy. Cooking sucks. If you have the money, that time can be spent on something better instead.
The quality if the food you eat is such a big determiner for quality of life though.. I would rather spent a few hours every weekend mealprepping and living an extra ten years of healthy active life. Plus, if you can save 600 dollars on food you might be able to just work less.
It really depends on the restaurant. Eating Chick-fil-A every day certainly isn't healthy. But there are plenty of proper restaurants that are.
The problem is that in almost every case, restaurants’ only objectives are to make food that tastes good and make customers think they’re getting a good value. Hence, tons of high-caloric additives and huge portions.
When you cook at home, even if you use oils and other high-caloric ingredients, you still use way less than restaurants do. I promise you, take a “healthy” meal from a restaurant and compare its nutritional content to the same thing you would make at home; the difference will be drastic.
A couple examples:
In these examples, both taste good. But the restaurant versions are tons of empty calories that contribute to a very unhealthy lifestyle. Don’t get me wrong, I like that shit too. But it’s rare for me, I’d rather make it myself and control what goes in.
You don't live in Germany, obvs. It's schnitzel and Maultaschen all the way down.
I do, actually. Our local restaurant of local cuisine makes an awesome salad with game meat. It's big enough to really fill you up.
Also, Maultaschen are hardly unhealthy
It doesn't have to be unhealthy. They do have salads and grilled chicken, and even grilled chicken salads. Of course, the healthy items are quite a bit more expensive than the unhealthy items ($3 for large fries vs $4.20 for kale salad).
Cooking rules. It can be an excellent anti-stress ritual as well.
I'm sure it is if you enjoy it in the first place.
Cooking is great if you have the time. It's a good way to relieve stress, and it's cheaper and better in every way than bought in food.
The modern economy is designed to keep everyone working long hours and exhausted, so not many ordinary people have the time.
I have the time, I just choose not to spend it on a cooking. There are much better things to relieve stress.
Why does cooking suck for you?
I don't like grocery shopping, cooking, eating or doing the dishes. I'd even hire someone to eat for me if I could.
How does it not? It's just a boring activity. What's so great about cutting stuff into pieces, stirring and watching stuff get warm?
I sincerely asked, and I assume you are similarly sincere in asking.
For me, it's an absolutely quotidian task, every aspect of which I approach mindfully and joyfully. Using a good knife, decent pans, a halfway decent grill/range/oven... the joy of using good tools skillfully cannot be overstated. I mean... where else in our days do we get to play with knives around people and they love the results? :D Woodworking, I guess, but you can't eat those results.
I love everything about cooking:
From a holistic, connected-to-the-land, tree-hugging hippie context, cooking takes the alchemy from Shit Wizards (AKA farmers) and transmutates those inputs into magical energy. Food nourishes the body; good cooking nourishes the soul. Gathering tribe around a meal that I made is even more fulfilling than the literal billions of people who, directly or indirectly, use the software I built.
From a biological context, knowing the provenance of my food is the culinary equivalent of using open source software. From an ethical living context, knowing that my food providers are using fair labor practices, compassionate animal welfare, and good land stewardship enables me to make food that I eat and share in good conscience. Also, garbage in, garbage out on every level. This is stuff you're putting in your body. The body that carries around your brain, both of which ya kinda need to do other things you enjoy. Food is medicine, and so many ills I see, physical and otherwise, stem from poor food sourcing and prep.
From an efficiency, conservation, and creativity context:
In the grand scheme of human experience, there are few things that everyone can do that fire on all sensory cylinders while delivering the spiritual high of creativity manifested. Cooking is something everyone can do.
Right, but I don't really know how to explain why you don't like something. It doesn't doesn't appeal to me. It's not fun. I don't care about playing with knives (I hated woodworking in school, btw).
Yeah, that aspect is somewhat interesting, I would definitely consider reading a book about it. Trying to learn by own practical experience in this day and age seems like a bit late to the party, though.
In the end, cooking is just an ends to a means of eating.
So tired of hearing this dumb fuck argument. Ordering food =/= fastfood. The amount of people that seem to think their little bit of homecooking can compete with professional chef's is laughable.
Totally fair and thank you for the elaboration.
I'll counter this point with: I think we're in a golden age of home cooking. YouTube alone is a gold mine for technique development and refinement. That won't do anything for your lack of interest though.
Well that's good, because I'm not talking about fast food; I don't eat fast food. Ever. My point was about knowing what you're putting into your body, knowing how it was sourced and prepped. Dining out is at least three layers of abstraction from that knowledge. I've spent a lot of time working in restaurants, including high end ones. Apart from zero-compromise, prix-fixe, tasting menu establishments, recipes are always built to a price point. More restaurants than not use Sysco, First Street, or other nasty industrial sourcing. Most restaurants source their meats directly or indirectly from IBP/Tyson because they cornered the market on meat at scale*. And that's before factoring in time-saving shortcuts, like not washing produce and using Sysco bases. For just one example on the sourcing risks, at high end restaurant where I worked the pantry cooks had to wear gloves to receive and sort the produce because the pesticides and container treatment gave them rashes.
*IBP used to be a reliable, quality source despite being CAFO meats, and what I used in my own charcuterie business. After the acquisition by Tyson, shit went downhill almost overnight. I closed up operations because sourcing at that scale was no longer possible for me.
A chef is a cost engineer and inventory manager. But I get your point: Sturgeon's Law absolutely applies to most people's kitchen results.
I see what you mean. I'm in Europe where restaurants and food are generally better regulated. Switzerland specifically has very strict laws for labelling the origin of meat, for example. A lot of the non-chain restaurant will source their ingredients locally. I don't think the quality is much different than buying the expensive ingredients from the super market.
I guess the best option (health-wise) is only buying fresh produce from the farmers market and such, but that requires a whole other level of effort in the shopping department (and I don't enjoy shopping either).
Ah, gotcha! That right there is an enormous game-changer, and I'm agree with everything you say here. The US food chain is straight-up toxic. You may know this already: the US allows food treatments that are outright banned in most other countries. My travels in Europe were a revelation; I can eat things over there that invariably sicken me here, most notably bread and raw eggs. I would probably dine out more too if I lived in Europe. :D
For the science of cooking book and website . Its an interesting subject
Edited to add this book which i think is better than the one I previously linked to
It definitely can, and you are showing your inexperience with cooking by making this argument. Cooks are people who are professionally trained in cooking, but you know what, most processes involved in cooking are the same whether you are a professional or not, so amateurs are perfectly capable of achieving the same level of perfection as cooks for a whole range of basic elements of cooking.
I think your dumb fuck argument is tiresome because you seem to be unable to imagine that people can have opinions that differ from your own. You seem to have the need to have even the most basic concepts explained to you. even though lots of people have already done so numerous times in this thread alone.
Thanks for distilling how I feel about cooking. It’s an ancient art made better by good science and engineering.
I think you need to address why cooking sucks for you. Do you know how to cook properly? My wife isn't a big fan and that's mainly as she doesn't know what goes well together and doesn't know how to use herbs and spices so needs recipes to tell her how to make most foods, especially initially.
It's quite easy to throw something healthy together. Eg. Had a chicken breast, stir fry veg and rice meal tonight. Rubbed a spice mix on the chicken and threw it in the air fryer for 20 mins, cup of washed rice in some water (to just over top of finger nail) cooked covered on low for 12 mins and left to steam for 5-10mins with cooktop off and then fry up some pre-cut stir fry veg - convenient, quick and not much more expensive. Throw a sauce like chutney or honey-soy (or bbq) on it and happy days. Doesn't have to be hard, doesn't have to cost a lot, doesn't have to take long and doesn't have to be bad for you. But this is something I would do, my wife probably wouldn't.
Sitting down with the family and eating a meal is also good bonding time and helps mental health.
Do I? I just don't like it, it's boring. You tell me what's so great about it instead.
I could cook some food that I very much enjoy if I want to. That's not the problem. It's just not worth the effort.
I know you mean well but this is so condescending, wtf? It is bizarre how many people on this thread are acting like it is an actual impossibility for someone else to not enjoy something simply because others like it. I don't even hate cooking but it's so weird how everyone is INSISTING that no, this person must be confused when they state they don't like a task that is broadly considered a chore by many. ????? What is happening? I'm sure there are many things that they enjoy that you might not because we all enjoy different things.
The world is a funny place with lots of varying opinions.
Your opinion is valid.
Do you enjoy the taste of food? Because my co-worker takes it to the extreme. Food is just a necessary part of life to him. He eats the same meal for lunch every single day, a Tim Hortons sandwich of some sort. It never changes. When we walk into the gas station where they Tim Hortons is? The staff greet him, and tell him his total so he can pay, because they know without a doubt, that's what he's ordering. The guy doesn't like salt or pepper or ketchup or any type of sauce. His words "too flavorful".
My opinion, is that I love the taste of delicious food, and generally dislike cooking. Now, I know how to cook, I help my wife cook often, and sometimes I make the whole meal myself. We make delicious things, a wide variety, lots of flavor and spice and zest.
But when she's out of town? I make bachelor-chow. Carb heavy and easy. Ramen, Mac n cheese, freezer pizza, hotdogs, you get the idea. Tastes good enough to me, quick and easy, cheap. I don't think I've ever cooked a proper meal while she's away.
BUT, I usually start to feel like crap after a few days of this. And one of the many reasons I miss her when she's gone, is that she'll force us to make good food again when she's back.
I really do love good food. I'm just supremely cheap and lazy, and won't do it myself. Maybe if she's ever gone forever, I would eventually start eating right? Hard to say.
But everyone's relationship with food is different. My wife will eat "girl dinner" on occasion. But would much rather spend the time and make a proper meal from scratch. Tastes better.
cooking is a basic survival skill. and what that can you spend an hour a day to make up those 700$?
get your shit together and learn to cook. just because whoever raised you failed as a parent doesn't mean you don't get to have responsibility over your own life and learn to cook.
So was hunting and gathering for food ... but than we had a civilisation with division of labour an all.
And now we have those who'd rather work for recreation, and those who'd rather work as recreation. I can find better things to spend my money on than food.
That's fair enough. I have better things to spend my time on than cooking. To each their own.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and day probably not. I get the jam they are in though and it sucks.