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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Is piefed some other aggregator?

If so I'm not sure how that threatens us tankies. If it gives libs some other place to congregate, all the better

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's a software similar to Lemmy. It's fediverse too so really it all works together. You'll see Piefed users and posts just like any Lemmy user.

Same situation back when Kbin/Mbin was a thing.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice. Cool to see decentralisation working

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, Piefed has a lot of anti-communist shit in its code.

It essentially exists because some libs were whining about supposed tankie censorship, and then made their own lemmy with ~~blackjack and hookers~~ censorship had coded into it.

Piefed literally has a social credit score for users. You can't make this shit up ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

That's quite funny

[–] scintilla@piefed.zip -3 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Just a reminder that even other commies don't like tankies.

[–] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If by "other commies" you actually mean libs, sure

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's been very funny to see the rhetorical slide in the last decade.

  • Sure I'm a progressive but I'm not a socialist

-Sure I'm a socialist but I'm not some communist

-Sure I'm a communist but I'm not some kind of tankie

The overton window will continue to shift as conditions deteriorate, reform continues to fail, and us "tankies" continue to be proven correct about everything. Enjoy the ride

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 1 day ago

I seem to be stuck in the "socialist" line. When are you commies gonna do what you always do with fascists so I don't have to go down further?

[–] scintilla@piefed.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have identified as a communist since I came out of the alt right pipeline. But I also learned that just because propaganda says one thing that the opposite is true. Having a nuanced view of how to world works isn't a "rhetorical slide". Just because the west is evil doesn't mean the east isn't.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Two points:

  1. If you believe in evil, your view isn't as nuanced as you think it is

  2. The assumption that "tankies" (communists with an understanding of history, geopolitics and systems theory) are simply swapping one set of unthinking blanket loyalites for another out of some kind of contrarianism or intellectual laziness is itself an intellectually lazy assumption based in a lack of understanding. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't have had to read so many damn books. The actual truth is that the "tankie" worldview is by far the most nuanced out of all the mainstream political tendencies. It is built on dialectical and historical materialism rather than a static liberal idealism composed of floating signifiers. Rigorous analysis, critique and self-critique are built into it's foundations. To put it simply, the liberal and western leftist understanding of the world is a static, abstract diorama drenched in the residue of christianity while the tankie understanding is a scientific machine in constant motion. When western leftists who haven't yet examined their internalized propaganda and chauvinism say things like "just because the west is evil doesn't mean the east isn't" and think they're addressing something the "tankie" actually believes, they are projecting their own lack of nuance onto the tankie.

I started this comment feeling a lot more snarky, but have ended it feeling a lot more up to the task of explaining in good faith. I've been exactly where you are, I've been you. You have not yet been me.

[–] godisidog@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

Most commies are “tankies”.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

jokermala thank you for your vote. Would you like to finish the child I've been eating?

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is now happening to Marx’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie.

All the social-chauvinists are now “Marxists” (don’t laugh!).

[–] scintilla@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am for an armed revolution I just don't think installing a dictator at the end of it will help the people in a meaningful way long term. Putting a single person in charge will always lead to corruption eventually.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Thank goodness we don't install dictators but instead [elect from a council democratic system](https://news.cgtn.com/event/2021/who-runs-the-cpc/index.html