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Yeah it's pretty good.
Honestly I try my best not to analyze the "canon" too much with the show. Frankly the Fallout canon has always been kinda wonky.
I don't care if they mess with the canon as long as they keep the overall themes of "Manifest destiny, fascists, libertarians and jingoism are stupid actually"
Also cowboy robots please
I was worried they were going to jerk off the brotherhood of steel. But they really show them to be a pack of petty and murderous chuds.
They do also jerk them off though, making them these invincible super soldiers (except when the ghoul meets them) who have seemingly infinite Prydwens. I'm still holding my breath for them showing Elder Maxson or whatever his name is. It could easily be a case of "no these are the bad brotherhood guys! He's a good guy!"
Fair, though Kumail Nanjiani's Commonwealth BoS Envoy felt like a huge jerk too.
Also I agree the extra Prydwens are silly, but funny they immediately used them on each other in a civil war.
Oh right he was from that chapter, for some reason I'd thought he was from another. Yeah that guy does make it pretty clear they're fascist psychos. Also Kumail did a great job, he's awesome as a douchey jock with a little bit of nefarious mind beneath it all. Really sucks for the poor guy that he got shredded and mocked for it.
edit: The extra Prydwens are both silly and not silly. If the NCR they had shown had been an industrial powerhouse, then the Prydwens wouldn't have been such an issue, because we establish the world as one of scale. But when the NCR - who was the main antagonist for most of the BoS-factions - is depicted as a bunch of smallholding farmers, then an armada of airships make no sense. These guys were not only held back, but pushed out of territory by an idyllic version of small-town America? How? They've got airships out the ass and fuel to spare, meanwhile the capitol doesn't even have clean drinking water.
If they'd shown an NCR with power armor troopers getting it's ass handed to it because the central leadership was gone, then that would make sense. But this archaic remnant faction having the supply lines to launch major assaults, while their enemy seems like some rag-tag militia? Non-sensical.
I know I'm bitter, it's just... logistics get to me I guess. It annoys me when internal logic isn't holding up.
It is very funny and fitting that they just blast each other with those airships though.
The writers of this show have no fucking sense of scale
The NCR had like, territory that stretched beyond just one fucking city. But oh, one nuke in shady sands and the whole thing is fucked
Same with the legion, they were supposed to control like, east of the Colorado river? but in this show it seems like literally 100 guys jerking off having a civil war 12 feet away from each other
Then, yeah, they have like, 8 ffucking flying aircraft carriers
How many REGULAR aircraft carriers, severely limited in speed and maneuverability compared to one that fucking flies, does the U.S. have? Google says 11, with only 6 in use at a time
The BoS having all those fucking carriers would basically make them the GLOBAL super power unless some Chinese remnants are left with anything comparable
Exactly my issue. If the NCR, a massive nation-state, can't even muster the labour necessary to supply clean water in it's capitol; then how the fuck does some group of constantly infighting nomadic fascists with more bullets than brains have the industrial capacity to supply not just one, but several, flying fortresses? The fuel is whatever due to sciencemagic, but food? Clothes? Armaments?
And if they have that, how the fuck was the NCR ever a threat to begin with? Or Caesars legion? Or the enclave for that matter?
The prydwen itself was a stupid addition to the game. I could excuse it for rule of cool, but several?
Okay, I can buy that. We're making a show/world were that kinda stuff doesn't matter. THEN HOW THE FUCK DOES THE NCR COLLAPSE FROM A SINGLE NUKE IN ONE CITY?? I thought that didn't matter?
It's that kinda stuff that makes me say it's clear Bethesda has a hard-on for the BoS and despises anything Obsidian for making people realise what fallout isn't.
The show is still good, it's just... It's very frustrating that the only good Fallout since New Vegas needs to shit on New Vegas.
Yeah I agree with all of that
Every single bit of media needs a factorio playing marxist, or someone whose special interest is some kind of spreadsheet videogame, who is also a fan of the source material, as a mandatory cultural commissar. This might sound like a joke but it isn't
In my utopia there's a civil engineer breathing down the neck of every author
Oh thank god, my biggest gripe with Bethesda Fallout is that they glorify the Brotherhood for some reason
Ok but I must say that the show BoS are just not the BoS. Like what the fuck is a "Cleric"? They do the post-Bethesda thing where the role of knight is absorbed by the scribes and knight becomes a rank under paladin but then they don't have the fucking scribes. Which means what the fuck even is the BoS now?
Season 2 addresses that the Chapter lead by Quintus is weirdly religious with heaps of clerics.
They mention that it's weird that the clerics are running the joint, but that everyone else also has clerics. What is a cleric in the context of the game BoS is the question. They don't exist in the game. They're clearly a religious caste and seem to my mind to be inserted to make the BoS more obviously coded to the contemporary American right wing.
Fair. I don't think it's a bad change compared to other huge changes. The BoS are always a bit different from game to game. I can see them developing a chaplain like figure in the clerics that one chapter goes hog wild on.
I like the way all the new chapters seemed bad in their own unique ways, Coronado being extra misogynistic, Grand Canyon sleazy, Yosemite's leader seemed most rational but mercenary.
A fun fact there is that that has been fanon for a while as I understand it, based on the fact that every game messes with their representation. So in fan representations you'll have a Texas Chapter who are cowboys or something.
I don't really like the clerics as a modification to the BoS formula, because I don't think they really serve a purpose. The BoS as doctrinaire bigots was explored better without it, and their self destructive obsession with their rigid beliefs was also explored better without it.
To me the exchange of:
Is a better critique of the BoS as an institution than retconning in a caste of priests. Even the fallout 4 BoS staring their own destruction in the eyes and deciding that they would rather go out as conquering fascists than go silently is a better take on the BoS going rotten.
i'm pretty sure a cleric can be a scribe
Yeah the show really roasts them