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He should be charged with terrorism, because that's literally what it was.
The right-wing political violence in this country is out of control...
Have you seen their “policy”? If the right’s not committing acts of violence then it’s simply not the right anymore. The people in charge are only in it for blunt power and the people who support it are necessarily not smart enough to understand that and are the kind who scream and yell and attack as a first resort.
I mean... you're not wrong...
Always has been
It's getting worse as they learn what they can get away with
You're not going to get a terrorism charge based on apple cider vinegar.
What if they are just saying its apple cider vinegar but it's actually acid?
Yes you should.
No, no you shouldn't get a terrorism charge for that. That makes you no better than the maga ass clown that did it. The charges are fitting for what happened.
It's literally the definition of domestic terrorism even pre 9/11 and nuh uh against facts is a bad argument.
Squirting an unidentifiable liquid in someone's face is terrorism.
Until it's tested in a lab, no one knows what it is. It could be a strong acid, it could be a nerve agent. Neither of those things are unheard of, and either one can maim or kill in a matter of minutes.
Using fear or violence to achieve a political purpose is the definition of terrorism. The attacker was attempting to disrupt the town hall and intimidate politicians in order to suppress political speech.
It's literal terrorism.
Legally, what he squited was irrelevant. If he believed he was squirting concentrated acid then he will be sentenced as such.
For real, I cannot imagine the insanely long list of charges if that had been a GOP member, every charge you could possibly pull out of your ass, multiplied by the number of people in the room/close proximity.
Too young to remember a post 9/11 America? People were getting hit with a terrorism/terroristic threat charge for way less than what this guy did.
It was identified as something harmless. Terrorism is the use of deadly violence on soft, civilian targets. Generally, assaults on political leaders are considered something else. Terrorism is the continued threat of future deadly violence, not of squirting vinegar on people.
I don't think a lab test was required to figure out it was harmless. It was vinegar.
Yeah, but it wasn't. If someone hit one of those ICE thugs with a black water balloon that was indeed filled with harmless water, would you support charging the thrower with terrorism?
No, it's using violence to create fear of future violence. That's the literal definition. Your personal definition waters down "terrorism" to a ludicrous extent.
If the prosecutors could prove he thought it was something more dangerous, he can be charged. The point of laws is deterrance, and if they do not charge him with a significant crime, then the next person will use more concentrated acid.
If you point a gun at someone unloaded, it's the same as pointing a loaded gun if you thought the gun was loaded.
It was unidentified when he did it you pedantic dipshit
As per the FBI definition of domestic terrorism.
It's domestic terrorism, stop being obtuse.
So the people who mailed fake anthrax... That wasn't terrorism?
Stop, you're going to make them admit that this is the revised version of the Iraq war. That word hasn't been used this much in a long time....
Not immediately, and if it had contained a nerve agent it would have been too late to do anything about it by the time it was identified.
Terrorism doesn't exclude attacks on political leaders, especially when they're in civilian settings such as a town hall.
A brazen attack with a syringe filled with mystery fluid in the middle of a town hall is intended to have a chilling effect on political speech and communication between representatives and their constituents. It's supposed to send the message "this could happen again, to anyone," and is intended to stifle political opposition. It's an intimidation tactic, which when applied to political purposes fits the definition of terrorism.
There's no way to determine that's all it was without lab testing.
That wasn't immediately known at the time
There's a difference between water balloons and a syringe filled with mystery fluid. Also, if someone were throwing water balloons at ICE, the current administration would definitely call them terrorists. The charges wouldn't stick, but it's completely different from mystery fluid-filled syringe.
It's using violence or fear (i.e., the threat of violence) to achieve a political purpose. Stochastic terrorism doesn't utilize direct violence, but the threat of violence is often enough to achieve its intended effect.
Just creating "fear of future violence" isn't it. Extortion, blackmail, racketeering can all create fear of future violence, but they're not terrorism unless they're done for political purposes. Terrorism is using fear to achieve a political purpose, whether through violence or threats of violence. That's not my "personal definition," it's what it is. You can look it up.
We legit just had the president call Pretti a terrorist for trying to help a lady off the ground, like last week