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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

What's some media that doesn't fall into that trap? The Zone of Interest? Blackkklansman and True Detective?

Andor whenever it shows Syril Karn instead of anything else about the Empire, he's basically Space Ben Shapiro.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mel Brook's The Producers is the only one I can think of off the top of my head unfortunately.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think The Producers gets around it in two ways. One way is that it's an absurd comedy which makes it harder to co-opt. The other is that it is meta textual about the problems of making fictional depictions of fascism.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, he was very specifically making fun of Nazi Germany. You could not just make the Producers but simply replace the Nazis with any other fascist movement. He specifically took Nazi imagery and made it look absurd. Like, that part in Springtime for Hitler where they dance in a swastika shape? That was a thing that Mel Brooks took directly from Nazi rallies, they actually did that.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

True it is impossible to mistake who the parody is about. Which is quite important given that the general audience is predisposed to reading depictions of fascism as authoritarianism.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

In Blues Brothers the nazis are a bunch of larping losers.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

The Great Dictator

The Producers

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

But I would say that a good way to ensure the fascists don't co-opt something is to have the fascists get humilated, have a scene of them losing and crying and pissing and shitting themselves, show them as the pathetic losers they are once all their bravado is stripped away, and don't let them win in the end, even if it is a hollow victory.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hogan's Heroes had a rule that the nazi scheme of the episode could never succeed, I believe

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Der Fuhrer's Face?