"no because the dev hasn't paid us to certify it as safe so you'll have to jump through 37 hoops in order to allow you to right click, hold options, and click open. THEN we'll give you an option to install it"

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

THIS! I can support apple cutting legacy cruft while designing their products. But the gatekeeping of otherwise functional code you can already observe and cockblock at any time remotely is psychotic.

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a LibreWolf on Mac reference, because I hate this so much about LibreWolf on Mac lol.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not so much a librewolf reference as much as a "any app you download from the Internet" reference lol

I'll have to try installing librewolf when I'm feeling frisky though

[–] adb@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

brew install —cask Librewolf

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, macOS has a lot of issues but the one hoop needed to run any unsigned app is "right-click app icon, click open".

[–] adb@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

OMG thanks.

I think I actually knew this at some point but somehow it completely slipped my mind.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Sometimes it won't let you even get to that step without going into the settings and finding a secret security notification that it blocked it from opening

[–] adb@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What version are you running? I just tried on Ventura, worked fine on both a .dmg package and some terminal script, both unsigned, and both would need the settings thing if I simply double clicked to open. You still get a prompt, but you have an “open anyways” option.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm on the latest version right now, but can't remember a time I've actually installed something on this version. On at least the previous version I believe I had a mix of annoying and the "open anyways" prompt, and then before that just annoyance. I can't remember exactly what I was installing off the top of my head though, sorry

[–] MrLLM@ani.social 8 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, and in rare instances, you’ll need to take the app/binary out from the quarantine

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -3 points 15 hours ago

I guess that is true, yes. I do think it's generally a good thing that they're locking down specific permissions like that though.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Are you still taking about macs? Because that's Windows.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is it? The only hoop I can remember jumping through is the (usually) singular UAC popup

Unless you're Ubisoft and pop up 5-8 of them every time you open Ubisoft connect 🫩

[–] marcos@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Windows will block any software that isn't popular. Unless the developer pays Microsoft.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I think I've seen this before, very rarely though. If I remember correctly you can continue to open it from the popup, right?

"Windows Smartscreen has blocked this app from running"

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Yes, you can pull the "more options" thing and run it.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

There's a button to ignore it, and paying Microsoft wouldn't help anyways, there's someone else you need to pay for signing keys

[–] BatmanAoD@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've never seen that, and I've been using Windows professionally and personally for...ever.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

It's only a thing if you leave smartscreen on. Think it might also only apply to stuff downloaded through Edge, but don't quote me on that.