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Next you'll tell me that we would all be a brunch if we had voted for Kamala.
I mean, yeah but the current problem started with education and ended with the voting booth.
Now what we can blame Schumer for is voter apathy by leading a party the prioritized appealing to Republicans instead of progressive and spurring apathy but I still think we all knew what was at stake at the voting booth this time around.
I'd say the chances that there's armed thugs taking over states and shooting Americans would probably be zero.
Not sure about brunch.
I’m sorry that the violence you were okay with happening overseas has come home to roost but I don’t think that makes Kamala morally superior in any way. If this upsets you I suggest you reflect on your complicity with genocide.
That's a lot of accusations with very little facts.
Far as I can tell both the Palestine and Ukraine genocides are worse now and Trump's kidnapped the president of a sovereign nation while threatening to invade another.
How has the genocide gotten worse? They just seem to be doing the same exact shit the Biden admin was doing, right down to planning to parcel out Gaza to American companies. The course has held if anything, and Harris certainly wasn’t trying to distance herself from that plan. If you voted for her, you were okay that happening just with different people benefitting.
She may not have kidnapped a foreign head of state but they had no problem killing Venezuelan citizens with economic sanctions, the immiseration caused by this blamed on Maduro and used as part of the justification for the coop Trump executed. They were literally building a casus belli to do this themselves, or at least creating the conditions for a domestic coop they could fund and arm.
Edit: if anything Trump’s inept execution of the coop has left a power vacuum that could be filled by someone who isn’t a US sock puppet, unlike that Nobel Prize winner the dems were probably grooming as Maduro’s successor.
You’re just going to brush off Russia’s genocide of Ukrainians?
We’re not funding Russia in that conflict.
And we're not funding Ukraine to the same levels so the Russia imperialists are killing them and stealing their land.
Okay? They’re still not funding Russia though. We shouldn’t support Russia’s genocide. Does this satisfy you?
By not funding Ukraine we are though.
We're directly supporting it.
That is literally the opposite of what words mean. We are funding Ukraine’s defense, not supporting Russia. I don’t know how to make this any clearer.
And I don't know how to make my point any clearer that things have gotten worse for them since Trump got in.
They may have under Harris too. We’ll never know. Did she make any campaign promises about it?
Either way, it’s the same trolley problem; are you fine with supporting genocide in Gaza for the benefit of Ukraine?
But Gaza hasn't gotten any better.
It was much much worse last year when they didn't allow aid in and tons of people were starving.
I’m not going to argue about severity, especially when the only side that even pretended to try to deescalate was Trump. Genocide is genocide. It’s a hard line for me; any amount is unacceptable.
I just can’t justify supporting a party that not only won’t denounce it, but actively funds and defends it. If the consequences for that mean that the people who voted for Kamala keep smugly implying that the instruments of imperialism being turned inward is somehow my fault then I guess I’ll just have to endure that relatively small indignity.
Harris says will end Gaza war in final election appeal to Arab Americans
If lip service is all you need I'm not sure how to continue this conversation.
Cuba is now heavily sanctioned again after the thaw started by Obama and partly continued by Biden but Trump is now restricting any fuel from going there which is problematic because that's how they generate a ton of power.
Claiming that lip service is all I need when quoting a single last minute statement from Kamala made as an effort to salvage her rapidly dying campaign from all the people refusing to vote for her over her support of genocide is extremely rich. That statement isn’t any different from crap the Biden admin happily shit out while dumping arms shipments on Israel’s doorstep. She’s married to a fucking Zionist.
You seem to be under the impression that things getting worse under Trump is somehow entirely independent from the actions of the people who ran the country in what was broadly the same direction before him, and then ran a complete joke of a campaign against him. So yeah I agree, at this point I don’t see how we can have a fruitful discussion.
You literally say here lip service is all you need.
I have never once said that they were largely in the same direction.
I didn’t vote for Trump either. His “lip service” was an actual ceasefire that Israel predictably violated. Biden never even pretended that far, only ever providing actual lip service.
Sorry, I misinterpreted the fact that you didn’t address either of the initial points I made about Trump’s Gaza and Venezuelan foreign policy being a continuation of Biden’s as implicit agreement. I edited the original post to remove that, feel free to address the rest if you like.
I think Trump has severely escalated things in Gaza and obviously in Venezuela but even if that’s true Harris told us she would do things differently and work towards peace.
Biden spent the entire war telling us how he was tirelessly working for peace. Why would his VP who spent her entire campaign anchoring herself down with Biden’s baggage only to set down this one suitcase at the last second be any different?
Trump also says he’s working toward peace. They’re all liars.
Actions speak louder than words and if she actually believed what she weakly put out, then she would have attacked Biden for supporting the genocide until he backed down. She didn't care till she saw the polling numbers cause these evil bastards only care about power and never human lives.
it’s been the exact same since biden was in office
No it really really hasn't
i did look into it more, and my statement is over generalizing (aka wrong).
biden had paused a single shipment of bombs, trump released it. But notable is that biden did not stop the sale.
trump removed the cap on how much arms could be sold, and that is a direct escalation, vs biden metered expansion of sales
there was the dismantling of UNRWA, which biden just started the process of doing
and the sale of bulldozers for the purpose of destroying the homes of palestinians to create an illegal pro israel “security zone”.
so you are right, while the biden admin were working to do these things, trump seems to be speed running their end game which is directly worse.
Yeah don't get me wrong Biden wasn't my favorite but the ICE funding he put in place was for expansion on accommodations to prisoners so they could be treated humanely while in custody.
In regards to Gaza, not going to defend him, he was all talk no action. Israel's actions were a travesty from the start.
However it has only expanded under Trump. If one could compare the magnitude of travesties such as this it has only accelerated under Trump.