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It's not self-defence to shoot people if the only reason they're approaching you is that you pointed a gun at them or someone else and they're attempting to disarm you because it appears that you're about to shoot someone or just shot someone. Otherwise anyone with a firearm can just point it at whoever and if they react at all, have free reign to shoot them. In fact, it's illegal to point a gun at someone else in the first place unless they're already attacking you (or in some states have entered your property), and Rittenhouse pointing a gun at someone else was the trigger for the whole incident. If he'd been charged for pointing a gun at people, then the second-degree murder charge would have stuck, as self defence isn't a defence against second-degree murder (otherwise a home invader could claim self defence if they shot the homeowner when confronted).
The only time he pointed his gun at them was after they pursued him. One of them also had a gun pointed at him. He attempted to retreat which means the attackers were in the wrong.
He had already shot someone before the other person with a gun drew it and pointed it at him. You have not seen the unedited video from the beginning, or have forgotten what it showed.
Or more likely just arguing in bad faith and has no idea what they're talking about.
I've been encountering a LOT of people who "know" what the videos of Renee Good and Alex Pretti show, and while I'm arguing specific points they get frustrated and say they haven't watched any video and they know what they saw on the news.
The Renee good video also shows that at most, her wreckless driving away was self defence. She did not deserve to be executed for that.
I saw nothing reckless about how she was driving in any of the videos I have seen, including the murderer's phone camera.
I saw a normal person driving away normally and then a thug jumped in her way.
I don't think it was wreckless, but if you had to rationalise her doing something bad, maybe it was her accidentally hitting the murderer. She in no means meant to ram him unless she was simply trying to get away
Please post the full video.
Why won't you consider that they pursued him in self-defense?
A dude enters a protest with the intent to agitate, points his rifle at people. Some people attempt to disarm him. He trips over his own feet while fleeing and decides his only option is to shoot some people.
You say he shot in self-defense, but you won't say the protestors pursuing him were acting in self-defense. Why?
You can't pursue someone in self defense, at least normal people can't. Cops get away with that level of bullshit, but that's not relevant here.
Showing up to a protest with a gun is fine. According to the trial he didn't point at anyone until after he was chased.
If someone has a rifle, they can shoot you from at least 100m. If you're worried about that happening your options are either to find cover, or close the distance to mitigate the advantage of the person carrying the rifle.
He can run away fifty paces, turn around and shoot you whether you pursue him or not. Your best chance is to disarm him, especially if there's a crowd of people he could potentially target and not just you.
I'm not even sure if this is true or not, I'm assuming it's not, but can you explain to the class how it is that you can be okay with the people who are dead being victim blamed, all the while everyone on planet earth knows the piece of shit traveled there precisely to stir up trouble, and it's not remotely far fetched to think he hoped for an excuse to kill? The result of him traveling there with the intent, to at-minimum agitate and intimidate, is dead people who would be alive today if he hadn't made that decision.
I think to make an argument that a dead person deserves to be dead, you either have to stifle any ounce of empathy a human being normally has, or consider the dead to be unredeemable evil monsters. But maybe you can explain it differently?
Stir up trouble against the other people stirring up trouble and looting?
Nah he took a semi automatic weapon across state lines for "self defense only". lmao