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In Fallout (1997) the opening cutscene shows a pre-war propaganda broadcast of American Soldiers executing a Canadian insurrectionist. Thankfully this is a work of fiction and not real life. (hexbear.net)

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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's deliberately ambiguous. Land invasion of China, US run by people who would make MacArthur blush, vault tec doing evil corporate shit, Europe trashed because of resource wars, etc.

i don't think who shot first is important to the games, and i do not trust the people in charge of the TV show to have functioning brains.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

i don't think who shot first is important to the games

I previously wrote that the Fallout ambiguity was the point, and the more we know about the pre-War world actually detracts from the setting IMHO.

The pre-war civilization went from haunting to set dressing. It's easy to point to Bethesda for this phenomenon, but (if we're being really honest with ourselves) the problem started in Fallout 2. The game became a franchise, and its own lore began to eclipse the general irony. In the original Fallout the pre-war culture was as alien to the world's inhabitants as it was to ours. Part of what made it work was the very little that was revealed in the bombed-out ruins. Now we have a fairly liberal (yes, even in FO2 and FNV) takes on the human condition, while the player has an encyclopedic knowledge of the pre-war world.