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Should I be trying to leave the USA before it's too late? (lemmy.today)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by someone@lemmy.today to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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I am someone born in the USA and white and male, so I am less at risk of harassment and brutality than others.

My take on things is that Trump is probably a Russian asset and Russian leadership probably wants a US civil war (but I don't have proof).

Midterms are still many months away. I am pretty sure Democrats realize that Trump wants conflict and they are trying to just wait for Midterms.

I am scared and feel like civil war could still happen. I have no children, few ties to any area, and only work remotely. I live in a very liberal area. I am mostly a poor person and have less than $25,000 saved.

I also have been arrested and held in terrible conditions in a notorious jail, experienced physical and emotional abuse there, and fear being arrested again and experiencing more abuse. Some of the things I experienced meet definitions of torture although not egregious physical torture (iron maiden type stuff). I am also gay and effeminate and worry I could receive worse treatment if involuntarily held for mental health reasons or for poverty because of homophobia by religious people.

Should I be trying to flee the USA now? If so, would Canada be safe? Is there anywhere else I could go to? I could claim asylum in a Northern European country but am concerned about the Russian War of Aggression.

I do not know if I am over-reacting. Will I still have time to flee if I wait and the situation gets worse?

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

If you do decide to go (and I can certainly see why you would), you definitely shouldn't try to apply for asylum, but get a proper work visa for your country of choice. No country currently accepts asylum applications from Americans as far as I'm aware, certainly nowhere in Europe. And even if you somehow managed to do that, coming here as a refugee is no pleasant experience. You'd spend at least a couple months living in poor, very crammed conditions among people from countries where homophobia is much more widespread than in the US.

If I ever decide to leave Europe, my plan was always to go to New Zealand. Seems like a good place to escape global geopolitics and/or a possible WW3.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Is New Zealand really self-sustaining? Genuine question.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Nope. And it also has a bat shit crazy government currently.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tell me more.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Well, they're planning mines everywhere for starters.

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