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There's a deep unseriousness that permeates western leftist organizing, unfortunately, though I will say that younger generations are beginning to become more serious. Here in the belly of the beast, the US Empire, Gen Z is far more friendly to communism (not socdem "socialism") than any prior generation:
What we are witnessing is the gradual death of imperialism and a drying up of the superprofits used to bribe the labor aristocracy here. There are tons of growing pains, lots of Red Scare nonsense to sort through, but every party meeting I attend I see new faces. People are increasingly finding their own interests aligning with the global south. There is a quantitative buildup for qualitative shifts, and this inflexion point is fast approaching.
As a western communist, my comrades and I have the very difficult task of trying to instill discpline and a sense of seriousness in organizing to a population that has largely been bribed out of revolutionary fervor for generations. However, hope is not lost, and no matter how difficult our task, it's increasingly getting more feasible.
We will win, comrade.
Soooo much this. Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will. Revolution is only possible if we believe that it is. Lenin believed it was possible but not in his lifetime. Lenin got one and only one thing wrong and that was it. We can never know when The Moment will come and all we can do right now is to try to grow these organizations but more importantly to discipline them. To employ or advocate for rigorous vetting standards (LOOKING AT YOU NYC DSA although your rejection of propaganda about china is cool and good) would be a good start. Of course it seems that on some level the DSA is highly compromised but from what I have heard from folks basically every party is compromised in the US. We have been simmering in the sauce for so long it's like the first Matrix movie how just random ass street food vendors suddenly turn into super powered agents of the state.
They hardly fuckin need COINTELPRO when mother fuckers like the person in that DSA leak just do it for them.
Yep, well said! It's hard. not easy nor impossible.
I actually had a conversation with a coworker yesterday. He used to be a pastor and grew up in a super evangelical family. Now he has a podcast that is borderline liberation theology and an interrogation of right wing christianity. We got to talking and we were on our work phones but conversation basically led from MLK to Lenin because it is real easy when talking about current events to bring up the riot is the language of the unheard line and then from there get to Lenin and the opening passage of state and revolution about the coopting of revolutionary figures while sanitizing them.
Excellent way to bring up Lenin! Lenin's observations are invaluable and can help us analyze our present conditions. It's important to carry on his legacy and re-analyze our existing world, just like Lenin did with Marx and re-analyzed for his era, the era after imperialism had solidified but before there was a single international dictatorship of the bourgeoisie helmed by one country, the US Empire.
DSA isn't compromised. It's just that as a "big tent" org with no vetting standards wrecker shit is going to happen.
We should want a space for angry libs to go and learn what the left is truly about. What we shouldn't do is allow them into spaces where they can do dumb shit without some form of vetting. But I will stand by the DSA being open to help people grow into comrades as a necessary part of the movement. It just needs to fill this role better.
That is literally what I meant by compromised.
The best argument you can make for the DSA not being compromised is that "compromised" implies having some baseline level of legitimacy that the DSA broadly lacks.
Oh I got a cowbee response I'm honored. Always like reading your posts/comments I always come away thinking how well thought out and well read they are. (As a longtime lemmygrad/hexbear/.ml lurker only recent poster)
I largely agree that the western left appears to be shifting as material conditions for the labor aristocracy worsen and the fangs of imperialism turn inwards.
At the same time I'm sure you can understand that at this moment in history calls from the western left for solidarity from the global south are slightly ridiculous and clearly from a place of privilege.
You flatter me too much, comrade. I'm a humble student of the generations of revolutionaries that precede us, trying to deepen my understanding through dialogue, and figure out better ways of persuading people to our shared cause.
I do agree, calls for solidarity from the global south as the Empire itself is finally truly feeling its own fangs (at least, the white population is finally beginning to feel it, people of color, queer folk, disabled folk, etc have felt it since the outset of this genocidal settler-colony-turned-empire began) is a bit absurd. Insulting, even. My hope was more to turn it into a point about revolutionary optimism, in that hopefully soon there won't be a US Empire to speak of outside of history books.
The water droplets may not bore through the stone today, tomorrow, or even in the next decade, but we will win, and that victory is closer than I think many of us realize if this pace of radical change continues.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Same! Cowbee is like the ML Mr. Miyagi out here. Always so implacably calm and collected with a seemingly supernatural level of patience and generosity when it comes to dealing with all the libs on lemmy.
His comments were very helpful for me translating my political thoughts to English.
Socdem millennials are going to be the new conservative boomers before you know it.
Can't wait for Gen Alpha to flips Gen Z's numbers tho