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Expert Who Ran Simulations on 'How Civil Wars Start' Warns Minnesota Is Exactly What It Looks Like (www.commondreams.org)

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Experts are warning that the Trump administration's ongoing crackdown in Minnesota could quickly get out of hand and could even result in a second US civil war.

Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, wrote in a Wednesday column published by the Guardian that she and her colleagues at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) conducted a tabletop exercise in October 2024 that simulated potential outcomes if a US president were to carry out law enforcement operations similar to the ones being conducted by the Trump administration with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers in Minnesota.

"In that exercise, a president carried out a highly unpopular law-enforcement operation in Philadelphia and attempted to federalize the Pennsylvania’s National Guard," Finkelstein explained. "When the governor resisted and the guard remained loyal to the state, the president deployed active-duty troops, resulting in an armed conflict between state and federal forces."

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Couldn't give less of a fuck about the Cascadian region joining or not, I'm from SoCal my interests are firmly Eastward not northward. Namely removing that blight apon North America known as the Mormon corridor.

But besides my genocidal ideations, I think the dissolving of the United States would overall be better in the long term within and without its territory. It'll just suck liquid ass for a decade or two while shit stabilizes into a new status quo. I want to see the various cultures under the United States flourish but that ain't happening with the continued existence of an American identity.

But also the rabid nationalism on my side of things that has me barely caring if I'm right or not.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It kinda sounds like roleplay but at least you have passion. Get involved in your community, you wont get that NC Ranger Armor outfit in your lifetime but you can make a world of difference understanding the current politics and supporting people who actually represent values for better outcomes. Less fun, a lot more realistic.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you know of any California focused organizations in the IE then let me hear them. But the closest thing to an organization who at least as of now matches with me is the DSA, and even they are too focused on federal level shit.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Progressive Victory is a national organization but they are a very strong presence for endorsing and organizing oppositional efforts on a political level, and helped get socialist and progressive candidates elected in places like Seattle and New York. I know for a fact they have a very strong California presence and can help get you lined up to support those candidates in a variety of ways.

You might not get your glorious Californian empire, unless the San Andreas fault does something wacky and the whole state ends up in international waters, but you can help keep a lot of people from suffering needlessly under authoritarianism in the immediate coming decades. I hope you make good choices and find your calling and reach out to others to build community.