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This is off topic but with a little mutual aid group I do on Mondays I got into it with another member who was going off on "China bad, China = authoritarian" nonsense. Without getting into the weeds too much at one point she said that rather than China she would rather live in a socialist country like they have in Europe and I just about raged out. What no theory does to MFer. Western ~~"leftists"~~ libs really think social democracy is socialism and that socialism is fascism, she really called China fascist.
How do we even get through to these people that socialism isn't about social welfare but actually about workers control over the means of production? I swear to god some of these people think socialism begins and ends at the state giving out free shit
Obviously the mission is mutual aid and China is more than capable of defending itself without me but my fucking god, last night I heard it all, uigher genocide, brainwashed masses too scared to disapprove of the state, wage slavery, African debt trap, China is the real fascists, Western Europe is the real socialists, Chinese billionaires, China authoritarian, Chinese have no freedom, "my white American friend moved to China and moved back after a few years because it was suffocating" as if the Peoples Republic exists to cater to the sensibilities of white Americans immigrants.
Makes me wanna pull my hair out talking politics with ~~"leftists"~~ libs. At least we can agree on the work that needs to be done in the near term but I need to convince these people to read theory. Anarchist, ML, anything other than this Berniecrat redditor lib shit
Just throw the term White Man's Burden in this person's face because they're exactly what it describes. Instead of Christianity, it's "religious freedom." Instead of civilization, it's "democracy." China rejects this because these same excuses were used to justify a Century of Humiliation.
Straight-up call that person out as a white supremacist who thinks non-whites can't think for or govern themselves.
~~Scratch~~ Mention China near ~~a liberal~~ and American "leftist" (liberal) and ~~a fascist~~ Yankee hitler ~~bleeds~~ crashes out.
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