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What are some good media that un-glorify conflict? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 4 days ago by Havatra@lemmy.zip to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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Be it books, movies, documentaries, or even music. I feel like I have people around me whom wish to fight violence with violence, with mentalities like "we should just counter-invade and show them who's boss" or "I'm not afraid to fight for what I believe in", showing a clear intent against an "enemy".

"The enemy" is such a dehumanizing perspective, and only breeds further animosity. I wish for them to see that we all manage to find justifications for our actions, but that doesn't make it worthy of just any sacrifice.

I recently saw the Norwegian movie Max Manus, which is about real events during WW2.

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He survives, but with almost none of his friends, and after the war he struggles with alcoholism and nightmares for the rest of his life.

It left me with a feeling of despite "victory", many people paid with more than just their life. And this is the feeling I wish others to feel, just for a bit, and ponder if "doing the right thing" really is the best thing.

No one should want conflict, and I wish to emphasize just how much we really should try and avoid warmongering. I've seen uncensored videos from modern wars, been in the military, had a great grandfather who fought in WW2 (who also struggled with nightmares and PTSD until his natural death), and all of it makes me dread the potential of the horrors that happen to everyone involved in an armed conflict, especially the innocents and the kids...

So, any suggestions for media that conveys this in a way that makes one really reflect?

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[–] mongooseofrevenge@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Vinland Saga

"I have no enemies." It's an anime with two seasons so far. The manga is getting close to complete. Takes place around 1000 ad with the wars between the Vikings and the English. Basically the first season is about revenge while the second pivots hard to redemption. It's ultimately a story about pacifism.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow. I dropped it too early then.

I kinda rolled my eyes and was like "Is EVERY Viking story just an endless circle of killing fathers killing sons killing fathers again?"

Maybe I should give it another chance...

[–] mongooseofrevenge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Ya the first season reminded me a lot of Berserk. You're following along with a character whose sole purpose is to kill and survive.

But you see his father in the first few episodes, a man who moved his family far away from the Danes, a man who runs a village and is beloved, a man who despite being a master with a sword is shown trying to lean new skills and grow. He was a man who couldve led the Vikings and lived in luxury but wanted his kids to grow up away from the battlefield. The story is the unfortunate journey of Thorfinn having to realize what his father was trying to teach him but the hard way. Even though the first season is a lot of fighting, there is very little in the second.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Don‘t get me wrong the conclusion is phenomenal but the second season just drags on and on and on. They should‘ve made the second part a much shorter movie. The prologue season on the other hand was absolutely amazing and peak television.

Goes to show that every war movie (or in this case TV show) is a pro-war message just as much as it is an anti-war message. It all depends on who you ask. No matter how much effort you put into getting your message across.