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Was a pipe dream to think Carney would stand up to the orange menace.

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I thought we were invited. To me, this is a Carney L for Canada until demonstrated otherwise (edit: sorry, I realized I'm talking in sports clichés: an L is a loss, like a W is a win)

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As I understand it:

We already have a contingent going for a preplanned exercise.

What we are not doing is stationing additional troops there indefinitely. Probably because we need them here for when that orange moron listens to Navarro or Miller again.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are those people - deranged from a lack of coastline and mountains - who would slag Carney no matter what he did here.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, the same people that dont know that Canada lost five refineries(at least!) When Conservative Mulroney signed NAFTA.

And now, Washington state has no income tax because of that, because they gained said refineries.

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As someone who lives in WA state, people have been trying to get income tax implemented here for a while now, but it's against the state constitution. It has nothing to do with refineries.

People want income tax here because the current sales tax system misproportions tax on only what people spend. This means lower income earners foot more of the tax bill, as they spent most / all of their income just to live. Higher income earners might spend more in general but they also invest that extra income, which eventually will have capital gains tax (but only on the gains) but will never be hit by sales tax until it's spent.

Your state benefits tremendously from the refineries that were located in Vancouver that moved to WA.

We should criminalize the export of oil to your state.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Feeling strongly about whether this is an L or a W is insane, on top of the inherent problem of being that black and white simplistic.

First of all, you are basing your knowledge off of random news articles you read. Assuming the PM is competent, they will be making decisions based on intelligence reports that both include everything you know, and a whole crapload of stuff you don't.

He's literally playing a game of Diplomacy, against a mad man backed by demons. Give him some space to cook.

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

While it's not clear from the article why Canada is not joining its allies, it certainly doesn't look very good. If Canada does not have veey good reasons, it's essentially defecting from the alliance and thereby siding with the aggressors.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No. This is a democracy and I reserve the right to criticize leadership, thanks.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Criticism isn't inherently a bad thing.

Uninformed criticism is.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And I have the right to criticize the over confident and under informed.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, obviously. When you hit me with this obsequious bullshit, though?

He’s literally playing a game of Diplomacy, against a mad man backed by demons. Give him some space to cook.

I'm going to tell you to stuff it.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

In response to the confident claim that he made the wrong move in a game where the claimant knows less then half the relevant information.

Again, if you feel strongly that his is an L or a W, you're probably a moron.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Would you give this same grace to Pierre Poilievre were he Prime Minister?

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

No, probably not, because I trust him far less, but that doesn't mean I would be right for jumping down his throat about this, just that I was biased and upset and being reactionary.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago

Then you just don't want your guy being questioned. You'll have to forgive me if I don't agree.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

“He’s playing 4D chess” he’s letting a demented senior boss him around and he doesn’t care because he’s too busy selling off our natural resources and trying to bust union strikes. Carney’s a fucking idiot conservative who I have zero trust in.

If he really wanted to bolster us against the rise of fascism he’d give us the election reform we were promised a decade ago. He doesn’t give a shit about that.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

What happened to 'Elbows up,' eh?