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Can I buy one and ship it to the US? Only a small fraction of us actually like Trump. The rest of the numbers are blown up by the media to seem bigger than they are, then another chunk didn't even vote at all.
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Those who didn't vote in the 2024 election are equally culpable to the Trumpoids in my eyes. It was very clear what Trump stood for, yet they didn't bother to go out and vote against fascism.
My favorites are the ones who claimed they couldn't vote for a genocide.
Now they have three genocides and two invasions.
i feel like the ones that dint vote, and voted for rfk or stein are republicans that dont are "embarrsed' the other group is the totally "this has no effect on me now"
I guess they didn't pay heed to what John Morley stated more than 100 years ago:
"Politics is a field where the choice lies constantly between two blunders."
It's not make-a-wish. Most of the time, you have to vote for the lesser evil.
Especially when Harris, as VP, supported investigating Israel so they could shut down the rule forcing them to supply arms to Israel.
It's my opinion that she only reversed course to get campaign donations. Looking at her voting history she was the closest to Sanders out of everyone.
Seems to me very likely that Harris would have been an above average president.
But sadly Americans chose the fascist psycho over Harris, because they didn't think Harris was left wing enough, or that she didn't support the Palestinians enough.
The logic being: I'd rather be killed by a fascist psycho than not be helped as much as I want by a way more moderate person, that isn't actively supporting killing me.
the real reason is "sexism, and racism" even those that dont initially support voting republicans they have those biases in them, but arnt as flagrant about it, because of where they live is unacceptable. as a poc you can tell when people are changed thier body language over a POC vs a white person when interacting with them.
That's too much logical thought.
Much closer to "woman not like me bad, man like me good" than anything else.
Non-white and woman surely counted as well in some circles.
Don't give them logic.
Saw a post denouncing Mamdani and AOC for not being pro-Palestinian enough.
They'd probably denounce Hamas for not being pro-Palestinian enough.
That's not that hard of a position.
What's your favorite Obama war?
Bullshit, he got half the votes, and those that didn't vote didn't dislike him enough to prevent his election.
So Americans like Trump plenty, until he does something that hurts them personally.
If you really believe your own comment, you are delusional.
alot of its based on sexism, they dint like trump enough but dislike women in charge evenmore.
I'm not a conspiracy tinfoil hat guy, but there's been enough projection and "holy shit are they actually admitting it?!?!?" ramblings from Trump, Musk and Rogan over this past year that it's not just myself, but have brought many others to call into question the authenticity of the results.
TLDR: IT WAS RIGGED
I don't believe you, because there is not a shred of evidence of that.
Occam's Razor tells us it is much more plausible that Americans are just stupid, and didn't learn the lesson from 2 periods of Bush Jr. and the first period of Trump.
The American society is sociopathic and hold individual freedom as a religion. And they see Trump being a malignant narcissist as a perfect example of individual freedom, and they don't recognize the sociopathy because they see it as a virtue.
This is to me the way more plausible explanation, that we have seen play out in many presidential elections in USA, Where already Reagan's uncompromising war mongering campaign won over the much more moral and humane Carter that wanted environmental sustainability. Religious fanatics are fundamentalists, and fundamentalists vote to the right, and psychopaths are fascists and vote to the right. Trump election victory is 100% based in the insanity of the American society.
I am not saying all Americans are insane, there are many good Americans, but just as a person that has terminal cancer has cancer cells in the body that makes the body sick, doesn't mean that all cells are cancer cells. And in the same way American society is sick, because there are so many "sick" people that behave in ways that are harmful, that the society as a whole is sick.
Seen from a country that is one of the best democracies in the world, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is very obvious that American society as a whole is very very sick.
Okay buddy, yowza that was a whole fuck ton of a response. Good on ya. I'm not in any way defending the dumbing down and weakening of critical thinking here. No shit, obviously we're getting dumber in the United States. It's been embarrassing since my childhood. I'm not going to bat for us.
Anyway, there have been a few instances where there have been slip-ups with Trump saying "Elon is so good with the voting machines in Pennsylvania", or with Rogan admitting how in awe he was of Elon looking at his phone saying Trump had won just as opening ballots had started.
Also Trump barely winning in swing states (ridiculous ) where it was a bullet ballot only supporting him, but being generally consistent along previous years trends that supported Democrats.. like I agree, yes we're stupid, whip me more Euro Daddy, but the fact that the Dems didn't immediately demand a recount is so cucked
I'm going to go against both grains here:
On the flip side of that coin, I guess I shouldn't have immediately jumped into this being political, and should really strive to unite both sides bc we all know money buys politics! Aka rich vs everyone else, so it's a vertical battle, not horizonal!
I don't care which "side" is which, we need a candidate who's not bought and paid for!
2)non-voters are mostly people on the other side.
They always play that card. Somehow, in their minds, they're the strongest democracy out there, but over the multiple decades of their elected government representatives doing atrocious stuff their answer is always "oh no you see they don't represent the real americans"
Read up on a thing called 'The Electoral College.'
The smaller, conservative states have more power than the larger states.
Left leaning California has 2 Senators, the same as tiny Rightwing Alabama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College
And that prevents you from getting up your chair and protesting?
lol "left leaning"
A large fraction of us like Trump, but not the majority. Still far, far more than is excusable.
Huge difference between a large fraction and a small fraction.
I'm not saying it's a major8ity anymore, but on election day a majority didn't dislike him enough to vote to prevent him from winning.
As I wrote, when people are personally hit by his policies, either the sucking job market, or losing ACA and needing healthcare, then they realize it was not a good idea to let him win. But before that, most were fine with it, or didn't care.
Well, most of my state, which is larger than most European countries, cared and didn't want him. The US is huge - clearly far too huge, since the will of so many people can be ignored.
Your state is one of 50, and not an representative of USA as a whole. I'm writing about USA as 1 country, not as 50 states and territories.
Just as when writing about EU as a whole and not about any particular member state.
The problem is not the size, it is the lack of democracy, and lack of respect between the states. For instance US no state can secede if it wants to, while UK was allowed to leave EU. No state can block a law in USA, while all countries of EU has that option.
USA see this level of respect and democracy towards each other as a weakness, but in reality it is a strength, and Europe has developed a society that is way better than USA, despite USA is about twice as rich per capita.
Believe me, I very much wish we could secede! Maybe the US will Balkanize after the empire collapses.
Sorry, but that argument doesn't hold water anymore. We gave you guys the benefit of the doubt for his first term, but this time you knew exactly what you were getting, and you allowed him back anyway. 32% of the eligibile population voting for him is not just some small minority.
Last time he didn't win the popular vote, so there was some consolation to be taken. This time we really don't have an excuse.
the signs/evidence of rigging was also more obvious this time around too. the DNC shills know, they just dont want thier money train to end if they supported an investigation or wanted harris to win. the old guard DNC benefits much more when GOP wins, because they get those same donor dollars that the gop does. and only allowed to ' fix things" once in awhile.
You would condemn the 30% that voted against him, the non voters, not to mention the children, just for the crimes of a minority, however multitious?
children cant vote lol, we arnt counting children as voters dummy.
The children? No.
The dead weight "opposition" that does nothing but complain online? Yes. Blood is in your hands too.
Just to be clear, which do you condemn more? Those who voted for Democrats or third party, or those who refused to vote altogether?
I think this is a pretty pointless distinction, but sure, here's a convenient nine-year-old ready list for your reference, ordered best to worse:
A person actively protesting, sabotaging and working politically against the current administration > A crusty sock I've forgotten I've left behind my bed after a gym session > Person voting for a democrat > Person not voting > Person voting for a Republican > Person voting for Donald Trump > Hitler
Is it not possible that the capitalist system we work under makes it very difficult for many people to protest, either through working them so hard that they have no energy, or no time, or makes it harder for them to get work or even keep their jobs to survive if they openly oppose the establishment, eg on social media?
Are these oppressed people truly worse in your eyes than a crusty sock?
Depends on who they voted for.
Depends on their actions now.
A worker got fired from Ford for having more courage than most. Hopefully gofundme will unblock all his donations.
When was history ever easy? What exactly did you expect, to induce change by tweeting angrily? Is the difficulty more important than the lives being lost?
Either way, not sure how that's an answer to my comment. There are a thousand different ways to fight that aren't simply sharing a perfectly rehearsed AOC rebuttal that is precisely long enough to make for a viral TikTok video designed by a PR team and then feeling like you're different. You are not. Voting for a party is not the end of your civic duties, nor does it make you opposition if that's the end of your actions.
you know....elections can be rigged, right?
I wonder how the Germans that fought against fascism felt when people spit on them and called the Nazis?
The vast majority didn't fight Trump's return. The vast majority still aren't fighting.
I'm guessing that the Poles didn't give a fuck about German feelings after WWII, and no one gives a fuck about your feelings now. Until something more than hand wringing on the internet is done, expect the negativity to continue.
US population is largely pacified by propaganda over decades.
I don't know exactly who you are talking about, but I did everything I could. Unfortunately I am not a fucking billionaire so my efforts don't hit as hard. That said, I actually couldn't believe the results of the election. I think there are a lot of people didn't expect this outcome. I mean it was hard to imagine re-electing a person who actually lost their reelection bid before, and that person is one of the most caustic and evil people to ever hold office. It was unprecedented.
2/3 of the country not opposing his policies seems pretty clear cut to me
My over-generalized understanding is that it's more like 1/3rd, but because of exploited political geography their votes were "more special" than the rest of ours, so suddenly we arrived at:
"The whole country wanted this!"
(Historians' note: No they didn't.)