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@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml banned me from !ManufacturingConsent@lemmy.ml (permanently!) and removed my comment from the post, because I dared to note that there are protests in Iran and shared a link to a crimethinc article with voices from within Iran. They call it "imperialist propaganda" if leftist voices from within Iran are distributed.

My comment:

I get it that the western media narrative is incredibly one-sided, focused on ideological bogeymen and focused on getting the monarch back in power. But I'd like to point out that there is in fact quite massive repression going on against the protestors. Leftist orgs in Iran need international solidarity now.

Their "reasoning":

reason: Ignoring the post to spam imperialist propaganda

I don't think that person can be reasoned with if they call crimethinc imperialist propaganda, so I'm not getting my hopes up for them lifting the ban.

I also think that they might be a bit butthurt, because I called out their zionistic worldview (i.e.: that judaism equates zionism) a few days ago.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I never implied otherwise, and I agree 100%. But that doesn't make the government good. It's possible to be anti west, but not repressive and slaughtering your citizens in the street.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Did you read my first sentence?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, did you read and understand both of mine?

I'd say most here are pretty up to date on the situation in Iran. Though thanks for the recap. To be frank, I don't care if anyone likes the west. I live here and I don't. Though thanks for the downvote. 🤟 If you're reading anything here and getting "please like the west" try again. The United States stole my family's homes and lands. The United States tortured, starved and persecuted my family. The United States death marched my family cross-continent. Dumped them off in an arid, strange land that they'd never been too before and left them to fend for themselves. Fuck the US historically and trump/Republicans/fascists contemporaneously. Yeah, there's lots of good reasons to dislike the west and other rigid unanswerable hierarchies of power.

But there's no excuse to turn against the people when they stand against one those hierarchies, and another hypocritically endorses them. If you do that you're no ally of the proletariat, just a reactionary and apologist. None of the many horrific things the west has done justifies or excuses what the ayatollah and his zealous security forces are doing. Full stop. Fuck each and every one of these power structures, east or west. I hope that clarifies the sentiment here.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world -5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Your first comment made it look like being anti west is objectively always bad due to lack of details as opposed to my comment where my first sentence is about Iran being an autocratic country with human right abuses yet you keep telling me what I already know as if I think Iran is not as what you described

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd suggests you should take a look again at context clues. I used the term re-actionarily anti-west. As in if the west likes cookies. Therefore I hate cookies. I don't know if English is not your primary language. I know I would definitely struggle on any secondary languages I know. And if that's the case, no shade against you. But I was pretty clear that it wasn't just about being anti-west.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Iran is not re-actionarily anti-west. It always the west who start with escalations against Iran then wonder why Iran hate them back. Opposing Iranian authoritarian and bloody regime is justified complaining about Iran relation with the west is not. The west hide under the facade of human rights to target Iran to sanctions Iran for opposing the terrorist state of Israel and for their right to develop it's civilians nuclear program and it's defense program. Where are the sanctions on the state of Israel(not just one or two settlers and one or two ministers), where are the sanctions on the UAE for backing the RSF committing a genocide in Sudan, where are the sanctions on Saudi Arabia for the same exact human right abuses Iran does?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

SMH. That was with regards to the posts subject. Not Iran.

Look if you support the Iranian people, we are 100% in agreement. If you reject them because a hypocritical loudmouthed infantile head of state cheered them on because he thinks he might benefit. Then we'll never agree and should just disengage. Fuck the Sha, fuck the ayatollah. May the Iranian people be the determiners of their own fate.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world -4 points 15 hours ago

Again my first sentence in my first reply it was pretty clear that I support the iranians people who want more freedom and better economy. It is still pretty important to mention that foreign western intervention and hypocrisy would result even more deaths even after the regime potentially fall