Crossposted from https://europe.pub/post/8458298
this post was submitted on 14 Jan 2026
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The majority of people that use Twitter are just everyday people that literally don't follow news or politics apart from the random stories that catch there eye on Twitter. If all of the left wing reporters and commentators left the platform it would literally just be Nazis and everyday people. (Which is what is happening). And the only stream of "news" coverage people would see is Nazi shit.
The issue is not with individual people deciding to support a Nazi owned platform. The issue is that the main form of online discourse is allowed to be owned and operated by a single billionaire Nazi.
Leftist that expect other leftist to leave a platform that reaches the most people are not being strategic or helpful. You have to meet the masses where they are at. You post leftist propaganda in the town square, even if the town square is owned by Nazis. You don't post the propaganda in your leftist only safe space and expect people to be exposed to it.
By all means, leave Twitter for personal reasons. Harassment, mental health, etc. But don't cry about leftist aggitators remaining on the platform.
Twitter is far larger than anything their "support" could be doing. It's the equivalent of being upset at the guy not using a paper straw and saying that they're the problem with the climate.
Complacency and apathy from a Lemmy.ml user. No fucking surprise.
If a Nazi is allowed to own a major platform then our only recourse is to delete our accounts. Because they aren’t going to stop a Nazi from owning it. Laws aren’t going to change to undo the purchase. Musk outed himself as a Nazi and now the only thing left to do the burn the platform.
This apologist centrist position is disguising and only enables the oppressor.
Yeah. Keep trying to solve the problems of capitalism with your consumption habits. That's essentially what you are advocating for.
How is understanding that you don't want to limit your audience when spreading leftist propaganda "apathetic"? I'm not talking about random individuals. I'm talking about prominent leftist journalist and commentators that still use the platform to counter right wing narratives.
Like, seriously, what is the end goal you are trying to achieve by shaming anyone still using the platform to spread leftist propaganda or counter right wing narratives. Do you really think it's better if all those people leave? Like, suddenly when an insignificant number of journalist and commentators leave the platform will fall apart? That's delusional.
Being realistic about the location of where the masses are at and how to best spread propaganda to them is not "centrist". It's being realistic about the state of media and not just leaving to virtue signal to other leftist.
The masses are only on these platforms because the people they want to follow are on there. It’s absolutely ridiculous thinking that if all the content creators would switch platforms that people wouldn’t follow them.
Anyone left on that platform is actively going against deplatforming Nazi Musk and is hindering any actual discussion of progress in politics and human rights.
Countering right wing narratives doesn’t work on platforms they control. It’s only keeping their spaces legitimate and increasing their revenue.
Dude. The people that normal people follow to be on those platforms are celebrities, sports players, and artists. You are extremely disconnected if you think that leftist journalist and commentators are what are keeping people there. Seriously.
Are you purposely misunderstanding my comment? I literally started by saying why I understand why prominent leftist remain on it. The audience that they are trying to reach are ON TWITTER. Why would they post only to blue sky? So they can get 100 replies from radlibs telling them they should leave Twitter?
Yup and every one of those celebrities, sports players and artist left on that platform are also enabling and propping up the Nazi platform just like the left wing politicians that refuse to leave thinking they are actually reaching anyone on a platform that is controlled by a Nazi and that can shadow ban and control your visibility.
Like I said before you can’t reach out and convince Nazis on their own platform. It’s a rigged game and the idiots are still on the platform jumping through Nazi hoops instead of achieving anything.
Again, what is your proposed alternative? That they leave the platform with the most people on it (the exact normies they are trying to reach) and...
What exactly? How are you expecting leftist propaganda and narratives reach the people.
Like, you can disagree if it's effective or not. But you have to actually offer an alternative that you believe is more effective at reaching normal people.
If you're just being critical but admitting there is no alternative then your criticism is literally just virtue signaling and useless.
Twitter popularity wouldn't even see a significant figure on the graph if leftist journalist and commentators left it. Let's not pretend them posting is "supporting Nazis".
Are you dense? Yes they should close their accounts and move to a platform not owned and run by a Nazi that openly saluted the president of the USA. They should delete their accounts and continue to post content or political commentary on any other platform.
People will leave the platform when the people creating content on the platform leave.
Literally everyone I’ve talked to that is still on that platform doesn’t want to leave because the people they follow are still on it.
There are countless alternatives and open spaces that aren’t Nazi bars that content creators and lefty media personalities can use instead of propping up and legitimizing the Nazi shithole.
Mastodon is right there and people will follow once the celebrities and content creators decide that participating with Nazis is no longer profitable. Disgusting pigs.
No, I think you're dense. Because for some reason you keep avoiding that the initial comment I made was about leftist journalist and commentators.
You agreed that the majority of people are not on the platform because they follow those people. They follow non political celebrities.
Can you not follow?
(1) Leftist journalist and commentators primary goal is to reach normal everyday people. (2) The vast majority of normal everyday people are on Twitter (3) Those same leftist leaving the platform will do nothing to change the prominence of normal everyday people using it. Because (as we both agreed) those people are there to read non political celebrities.
Therefore, there is no meaningful reason for them to leave the platform if their goal online is to spread leftist perspectives.
So, I understand why leftist journalist and commentators remain on the platform. It is the still the best place to reach the audience they are trying to reach.
Like, you keep talking in general "if everyone leaves it will die".
I'm not, and have not ever been talking about that. You can just admit you misunderstood my initial comment instead of doubling down on your own misunderstanding.
And you keep ignoring the subgroup of people that I'm referring to and have still not proposed what leftist journalist and commentators should do instead. You're just advocating for them to have a smaller platform that only reaches people lib'd enough to only be on blue sky.
This is the problem with idealistic thought like you are engaging in. You are focusing on the moral ideas of the individual. You for some reason do not care about the actual material outcome of the actions. Again, you are advocating for virtue signaling and nothing else.
The only material outcome of a small group of commentators and journalist leaving would be that less people hear leftist ideas and news perspectives. That's it.
Well, I guess it would make YOU feel better. But, I guess that's just the way your brain works. You're stuck in a moral idealism and are not able to think about the actual material outcome you're advocating for. "The idea" of what them leaving would mean is more important to you I guess.
It's why you keep pretending a small amount of people leaving would help change Twitters monopoly. It will not. It's why you keep avoiding the fact that I'm talking about a small subset of Twitter users.
Bwahahahahahahah
Keep doubling down on your nonsense with this being about just lefty media.
(1)This is about everyone left on the platform and not your cherry picked political characters with their own propaganda. They can go fuck themselves if they think can reach and convert Nazis on a platform they control.
(2)Every celebrity, sports personality and content creator still left on Nazi Twitter needs to delete their account and force the stupid sheep to not have any reason left to head into the Nazi bar. Not just the small number of commenters.
The people will follow if the content they want isn’t on Twitter. Yet even one of those celebrities still wants to suckle in the Nazi platform hence normalizing the Nazi platform. Hence (3) you keep thinking about the chicken instead of the egg. The journalist will go where the people go and not the other way around…
Not once did I advocate solely for the leaving of lefty politicians and commentators. It’s about anyone left in that shithole being Nazis enablers at this point.
So at this point shove the lefties still at the Nazi bar into the trash and accept they want the attention that being on the Nazi platform brings. Leftist journalist and commentators should do is either leave for a platform that is not run by and funds a Nazi like Mastodon or accept they are participating with Nazis and enabling them. Pretty fucking simple.
Can you follow or are you gonna moan: “but my propaganda journalists” while apologizing for Nazi simps?
Cool. We've gotten to the point of delusion that you believe your own misunderstanding of my initial comment.
It's ok mate. You literally just didn't understand the point of my initial comment and then over the course of a back and forth you expanded on that misunderstanding to the point that you have lost all sense and are now just arguing against your own misunderstanding.
It's quite remarkable. Go reread this thread if you don't believe me. For your own sanity I'll go ahead and block you. Good luck!
Bwahahahaha you can just admit you like defending the CP and Nazi platform.