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[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

No. In Sweden, 99% of all payments are cahsless. Most stores don't even take cash anymore.

We still have plenty of (digital) options for payment in addition to Visa/Mastercard.

In my view, it's actually the opposite. The more digital paymenst are used, the higher the incentive to create a competing payment solution. Swish and Klarna are taking over more and more here.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I thought klarna was just a payday loan basically?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The destruction of cash in the EU is jusy disgusting. I dont want to have to leave a paper trail for everything.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

There are digital payment schemes that would be completely anonymous for the vast majority of consumers, like GNU Taler. Support an implementation of it in your country. Cash is dying because of how inconvenient it is, we must build something that has the convenience of digital payments while also preserving privacy, there's no other way.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That would be ideal, but the people in office and their corporate overlords want to know every single breath we take. It will be hard to gain that right and easy to lose it.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

Right, there's no permanent solution to this issue while the working class is not in control of the state, because ultimately it's the state which sets the value of fiat currency. If we win the fight to get a Taler-like system recognized as an official one, it would be as difficult to get rid of it as it is to ban cash right now.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Could be an alibi if you ever get in major trouble, lookup the transaction, match to security footage, prove you weren't there.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have to prove I wasn't there. They have to prove I was.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

So if someone is lying and says you were? Mistaken identity? Easy fix if you show you weren't where the crime took place.

https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

You have a lot of trust in "the system".

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In Canada we have Interac E-transfer for transferring funds from our standard chequing accounts to private businesses or people we're buying things off of. We also have "virtual credit cards" that are just a CC number with an exp date and CVV that we can use for online purchases and that money comes out of our regular back account without the need for a credit account.

Most people still have and use Credit Cards but we are far less reliant on them here. Most of them time if someone has one it's for the perks that card gives, like cash back on purchases or points for rewards like gift cards, tools, vacations, etc.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We also have "virtual credit cards" that are just a CC number with an exp date and CVV that we can use for online purchases and that money comes out of our regular back account without the need for a credit account.

So, like, a debit card?

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

No, as you cannot use your debit card for online credit card interactions.

You can't use a debit card to buy things off Amazon.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 15 hours ago

You absolutely can, I did so this week.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

That's a new one for me. I didn't realize in some countries you can't use a debit card on Amazon. To be clear, I'm not talking about an ATM card, I'm talking about a debit card with a Visa or MasterCard logo.

[–] evol@lemmy.today 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] astro@leminal.space 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Must be a regional thing, because no such restriction exists in the US

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Funny that, since I said in my OP, I'm Canadian.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 4 points 22 hours ago

I was thinking that I definitely knew there were some European countries that are more cashless than the US.