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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 79 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Han solo didn't "shoot first", he was the only one who shot, period.

Greedo didn't shoot the wall (and miss a 6ft target sitting 2ft away), that was added (poorly) many years later for a special edition.

They changed the movie because in the interim years, George Lucas was feeling like it made Han Solo look less "noble" and more scoundrel-like.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Han Solo is supposed to be a scoundrel, he's a damn smuggler. The bar they meet him in is described as "a wretched hive of scum and villainy".

George Lucas has an incredible talent for fucking up the intent of the author in a story that HE'S THE AUTHOR OF, it would be very funny if it weren't so annoying.

[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago

And even taken all that aside, he shot someone that pointed a gun at him and basically said "I am going to shoot you now". Clearly Han is in the right here for defending himself.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

TBF, Han was a smuggler around the time of ANH, but he got there by running drugs for Jabba's auntie for years... Han Solo was a plug first, and don't even get me started on the Chewie/Scooby thread.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

And the guy he worked for previously was described as a "vile gangster" two movies later.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

If anything, Han shooting and being a “scoundrel” adds even gravitas to his change of heart near the end.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago

When I posted this I had no idea we'd get anything THIS controversial. Yowzers

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Han Solo IS a scoundrel

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

The class in Galaxies based on him is literally called "Scoundrel".

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Rubberneck Han isn't real. Rubberneck Han can't hurt you.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Greedo was pointing a gun at him and talking about claiming his bounty. How exactly was he going to go about that without shooting Han?

So yes, Han shot first, as in, shot before Greedo could, which he was certainly intending to do.