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[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They aren't ghouls, they're victims. They can be, and often are, victimizers as well. Most people join the military because they're broke and desperate. Have some class solidarity.

Now the people who join the military just to go shoot someone in the Middle East (or soon South America maybe), yeah, they can get thrown into the meat grinder.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree, that they are also victims. Ideally they would get the help they need, but realistically thats not happening so we have no choice but distance us from them, lest we become victims too.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's an insane and inhumane stance which could be equally applied to mentally ill / developmentally challenged people in many cases. The price of community is inconvenience. We aren't only meant to protect and take care of people when it's comfortable for us.

Now if we're talking about living with someone with PTSD who waves a gun at you or hits you, for sure, get yourself out of that situation for your own wellbeing. But there's a lot of room between "Calling them ghouls and exiling them from polite society" versus "Avoiding becoming a victim of their violence", especially when they aren't all violent.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Comparing vets to involuntarily disabled people is a big stretch. Most vets alive today are people who knowingly decided to go kill people for oil money. Dont bullshit me with "they didnt know better". Nobody goes to afghanistan without knowing about the atrocities that the US has comitted there. Being poor and needing the money doesnt justify being a murderer. If you applied the same logic to ICE, people here would be apalled.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

without knowing about the atrocities that the US has comitted there

As staggering quantity of American teenagers, at least the majority, are truly that ignorant. They didn’t have a real education and their pastor told them that brown people fuck goats and kids and the US army will help stop that.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Comparing vets to involuntarily disabled people is a big stretch.

I don't think vets volunteered to be disabled.

Most vets alive today are people who knowingly decided to go kill people for oil money.

I'm guessing you've spent time around like, 1 or 2 veterans max.

Do you have literally any source to back that claim up? (I know you don't but I'm asking anyway.)

Nobody goes to afghanistan without knowing about the atrocities that the US has comitted there.

You might if you are broke as fuck and not on the internet 24/7.

Not everyone lives the same privileged life as you.

[–] xxam925@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you ever read Of Mice and Men?

Sometimes we have to do hard things.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I tend to place human compassion as a higher priority than morals derived from novels.

...also the book is about shooting a mentally handicapped guy because the world wasn't able to accommodate his disability. Are you always pro-eugenics or just in specific cases?