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I currently use Linux Mint with Cinnamon which is fine. Ive been using it since early December. I had (and still have) some small issues, most of which Ive fixed.

I recently got a new GPU (a 9070 XT) and Im running a similarly cutting-edge CPU. In general, my whole desktop is made up of fairly new hardware.

So my question is: is there anything that speaks against switching to Fedora with KDE? That distro seems like it would make better use of modern hardware and be more “cutting-edge.” As I said, Mint is fine, but it seems rather slow when it comes to adopting modern technologies by comparison at least from a novices perspective.

As a disclaimer one of my best friends recommended I try it out (He has been using Fedora for years ) he also works in IT so should something go wrong I have someone a phone call away that could help me.

Main purpose of this machine is gaming

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[–] Inui@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bazzite is one of a few projects from an umbrella group called "Universal Blue". They're separate but affiliated projects that use Fedora Atomic images as a base to create more tailored images. Developers from those groups have contributed a lot to helping app developers create functional Flatpaks, created a Flatpak-only store (Bazaar) that isn't slow as heck like Discover, and attend a lot of conferences and give talks about "cloud-native development", OCI containers, the atomic philosophy, contribute to upstream, etc.

The base Fedora images still lack of things that either should be preinstalled, like NVIDIA drivers, or that are helpful for the specific purpose of that image, like having Steam on the image, since Flatpak Steam basically doesn't work for VR and has other issues. Bluefin comes with stuff like Docker and Devcontainers already set up, for example, which is a pain in the ass to do on regular Fedora Atomic where you have to layer packages, which slows down updates and brings you further away from the base image.

Bluefin is primarily meant for developers, Aurora for general desktop use, and Bazzite for general use and gaming. They're essentially Fedora Atomic+. And Bazzite isn't a 'gamer' project in the same way as something like Omarchy. For one, many of the developers are trans and don't include fash software if they can help it. They recently just banned a problematic developer that was stifling development.

I recommend it because it 'just works' a lot more than the Fedora base images do because of all of the stuff that they include. There's a separate image for a 'console' experience that boots directly into Steam Game Mode and makes it functions like a Steambox/Steam Deck, and a desktop image that doesn't do that.

It should be noted that someone can rebase from regular Fedora images to any of the Ublue ones and back also. Though there's issues going from KDE to GNOME and back. But someone could try Fedora Atomic KDE/Kinoite, rebase to Bazzite, and decide to go back. Same with Silverblue and Bluefin or Bazzzite GNOME. So there's not really a downside and that feature is sort of why I love atomics.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What would I gain from taking Bazzite over Fedora with KDE ? One thing im a lil bit worried about is longterm support. A "gaming" distro sounds like a good idea on paper for a dirty gamer like me.

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a pretty comprehensive list on their Github. Some notable things include multimedia codecs needed for some file formats to function out of box, xone driver pre-installed for controller support, Waydroid pre-installed for Android emulation if you like gacha games or anything, Steam ready to log in and go.

Are you familiar with Atomic desktops already? It's worthy of a whole other thread/debate, but you can get all of this yourself with Fedora KDE. However, the standard Fedora KDE is the 'old' way of doing things where you install packages from the Fedora repositories. These packages can sometimes conflict with each other if they're trying to install similar components, different versions, automatic updates, etc. Atomic distros primarily rely on Flatpaks, which are a universal packaging format that works for any distro instead of being specific to one like RPM is to Fedora, Deb to Debian, etc. But otherwise that's how people have used Linux for the past decades.

Atomic distros are relatively newer, though not actually that new or untested or anything, and function more like you might think of a phone. That is, the 'image' you install is a stock OS like Fedora with things bolted on. Every time you update your computer, the image is replaced entirely with the new one, but your saved settings, programs, personal files and all that are preserved. This is why I mentioned stability in my post, because either these updates are either successful or they aren't. There's no halfway or package conflicts that will break your computer. Flatpaks are sandboxed like Android apps to where they should theoretically only have permissions for what they need to access. I say theoretically because it isn't as robust as Android yet and is still being worked on, but the idea is that if something doesn't need your microphone, it can't use it without your explicit permission. If something isn't available in Flatpak, there are other methods to install them though. Otherwise, it's as easy as opening the app store and hitting Install.

A big advantage of them is something I mentioned in my last post where you can do something called "rebasing" where you're replacing your image with a different one entirely. So any programs you didn't install yourself and that were baked in get replaced. So you can go from Fedora KDE Atomic to Aurora to Bazzite to Zirconium to Origami Linux and back again with no to minimal issues without ever needing to reinstall your OS, move your files, re-get your software, etc. This is the beauty of the newer bootc technology. On a traditional non-atomic variant, you need to re-install the OS and mess with custom /home partitions.

I've been running Bazzite for about 2 years now, first with an NVIDIA card, and have minimal issues in that timeframe. Whatever issues I did have, I rebooted my computer and they were fixed in an update by the developers. Because it's downstream, they take whatever Fedora does and add onto it, so you're never behind on anything from the base OS. And as far as longevity, the developers are serious people with long-term goals who are well known in the Linux space, unlike the chuds who run projects like Omarchy and Hyprland. Even if the project were to die, you can just rebase back to Fedora KDE Atomic and everything is fine.

EDIT: I strongly dislike Discord, but the Bazzite Discord has all the developers in it and they and the community are constantly answering questions. You can also join their dev channels and see what they're cooking up under the hood.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Damn you for making me indecisive :^)

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I personally think atomic desktops are the way of the future and am 100% sold and on board with what these folks are doing because I think they simplify the experience to such a great degree that is sorely needed to better integrate new users. Others will tell you they hate flatpaks, atomic desktops don't let you tinker (they do, and also 'tinkering' often meaning fixing stuff that shouldn't need to be fixed manually in the first place), etc. Before Bazzite, I used Fedora, OpenSUSE, PopOS, and Arch the longest out of those. I learned a lot doing so, but the learning was unnecessary because it was like how to fix a GRUB boot issue with NVIDIA drivers that nobody should be having to begin with. So it ultimately didn't matter and kept me from actually using my computer. That's why I press them so hard. nerd

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

OK. I guess 9to5 is switching to Bazzite this weekend.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Oki. I will consider Bazzite or Fedora . I will switch from Mint probably this weekend. Might make an after action report 2 weeks later or soemthing (Thanks for your input)