It was a genuine question believe it or not. And “yes” would have been sufficient.
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I assume the title is correct, but could you link to the original De Telegraaf article? Thanks.
Anyway, fascism is never ok, but Ukraine having a huge nazi problem is Russian propaganda. IRC fascists gained 2% in the last election. Azov has neo-nazi roots, that's not ok, but has in large part been denazified. Many of the original members are dead.
The far right in Ukraine is far smaller than in neighbouring countries, including Russia. For example, here's a few pictures of a Russian nationalist march:
Meanwhile Russia has been supporting the far-right across Europe and in the US. For example:
But this isn't just real-politik or pragmatism. For example, Putin had Ivan Ilyin reburied in Russia. He has often quoted him and admires him. Ivan Ilyin was a self-avowed fascist, openly admired Mussolini and Hitler, and a virulent anti-communist. Russia is run by an elite who to be generous deeply admire fascism, co-operate with fascists, and who in all likelihood are fascists.
Another example, Dmitry Utkin, the co-founder of the Wagner group. Note the tattoos.
For the first like 2 fucking years of the war the west literally could not publish a pic of Ukrainian soldiers without fascist iconography but go off you fucking nerd
This shit still going on, I remember an article from like two weeks ago with some Nazi fuck being praised by the West
The low number of openly fascist parliamentarians in Ukraine is often explained by the crypto-fascist stances of other political parties: glorification of past fascists, racism, ultranationalism, xenophobia...
And yes, Russia has a fascist problem, like most other European countries, and, as in Ukraine, the limited presence of fascists in parliament can be explained in the same way.
And Lavrov says Zelensky is a pure Nazi, despite the former being a Jew. Should we believe him?
Or should we take Russian narratives about Ukraine being full of Nazis with a pinch of salt?
There were plenty of Jewish Nazis collaborators, just as there were Black people that helped slave owners, colonized subjects who worked for their colonizers, women who work for misogynists. Zelensky knows if he doesn't work with the Nazis they will kill him and he likes his head on his shoulders.
It's not (only) a Russian narrative, is a narrative shared by a lot of journalists specialized in fascism.
That depends on which journalists you follow.
Arent there multiple people in Zelensky's cabinet who are Jewish?
Including Zelensky, yes.
Article
I would argue that everything and everyone is doing propaganda, is it not more interesting to know where it comes from and why it says that rather then discard the whole thing?
And I agree that everywhere there is a rise in fascism (that’s why we should talk about it!) but where I don’t agree is supporting a country with explicit nazi symbology inside the military, especially if we want to regard them as “heroes” in the future. Supporting war is serious thing.
This topic should be very important to ukrainians too no?
The article you paints a much more nuanced picture:
Translation: the commander who welcomes him(Hendrik) says Azov is not what it used to be, has been reformed, purified, and rebuilt. He mentions seeing nazi symbols in an office though.
Translation: other foreign soldiers also wanted to leave, some had even seen teams where everyone did the Nazi salute in the morning. Ie. he didn't actually see the Nazi salutes himself. which indicates is indeed less common than the title and you suggest.
Closing words from soldier in question: we want to prevent the war spreading to Europe. Als we stop supporting Ukraine, our own chances worsen."
Why is Russia being a fascist state not an important topic for you?
Why would we not want to stop a fascist state in Ukraine, before it continues into Europe, and continues to fund the far right globally?
Why are you parrotting Russian propaganda about Ukraine which suggests Ukraine has a larger fascist problem than it does?
These are rhetorical questions. No need to answer.
The OP frequents tankie communities where the likes of Stalin, Assad, and sometimes Putin are praised all the time. Whether deliberately or not, they fail to grasp the most basic concept of fascism or the adjacent totalitarianism, where the part "total" is crucial in understanding that it's all about power before ideology. Someone like Putin may not raise his hand in the Hitler salute, but his track record of killings, human rights abuses and warmongering makes the occasional Nazi sympathizers in the Ukrainian army look like child's play in comparison.
As you note earlier, far-right ideas are unpopular in Ukraine, and funnily enough, the same far-right groups and individuals, demonized by Russia and tankies who often cite the likes of Sputnik, actually have a solid track record of supporting pro-democracy causes like Euromaidan, if not defending Ukraine from Russian imperialism. On the latter, the regular people in Ukraine don't care about the tattoos, patches, daily rituals or even the political ideas of someone who's there to help them evacuate after long weeks of being shelled by Russia and living with no heat, electricity, or running water. Heroism is defined by actions, not by ideas.
Edit: Grammar
"Heroism is defined by actions, not ideals." -You
Also before 2022:
If I posted 100 pictures from Kiev Pride, would this mean everyone in Ukraine is gay?
If I told you my grandma was 100 and smoked 2 packs a day, you wouldn't believe smoking is healthy. If I posted 20 pictures of old grannies smoking, you still wouldn't believe it.
There being an existing fascist problem in Ukraine before the war, doesn't mean it's a disproprtionate problem now. In fact, polling in the last Ukrainian election suggests it isn't anywhere as large a problem as Russia propagandists would have you believe.
Fucking Tel Aviv has a pride parade so that is really saying little about a country being full of fascists or not...
Here's Smotrich, the elected Israeli Finance minister:
Israel engages in pink washing, but the fact Smotrich is a minister says a lot, even if they haven't banned pride (yet.)
Meanwhile in Ukraine:
The leader of Russian occupied Donetsk complimenting Ukrainian fascists, who received roughly 2% of the vote in the last elections. Ukrainian fascists are apparently more popular in Russian occupied Ukraine than in free Ukraine.
Meanwhile in Russia proper, the Pride march has been banned for years, people are regularly arrested for being gay, websites which stream movies like Brokeback Mountain are banned, the “international LGBT movement” whatever that is was labeled as a banned extremist organization, the police regularly raid gay bars, gay people are regularly murdered, and the country has become one of if not the most dangerous country to be gay in Europe. But apparently that's not a country full of fascists.
But hey, maybe Ukraine is overrun with gay jewish Nazis.
I am happy we agree on Israel pink washing. I also agree on Russia using "Nazis" as war propaganda.
The sad truth is neither the West nor Russia will let Ukraine be independent or neutral. They will take as much as they can, for whatever price they can afford.
I wish nations would cease to exist but in the meantime I would be happy enough if we could get the bastards that have created this mess vaguely points at everything to the guillotine.
HexBear and ML are really not a great space for LGBT people with how they advocate for Russia so fiercely.
I wonder if anything out of the ordinary has happened to UA pride events since....
Meanwhile in occupied Ukraine:
Right Sector got something like 2% in the last Ukrainian elections, but 70% of Ukrainians are pro-gay rights. Meanwhile Russia is the most dangerous country in Europe to be gay. They will put you in jail for being gay. Gay Russians have consequently died. Gay Russians are regularly murdered.
Ukraine isn't perfect, but it doesn't have a huge fascist problem, especially when compared to Russia. In fact, the idea that Ukraine has a huge fascist problem is a Russian narrative.
Russia is a fascist state. Racist, homophobic, with Putin openly admiring and quoting self-avowed fascists and supporting fascist parties across the world.
If you uncritically push the narrative of a fascist state, defend the people who are the largest sponsors of fascism, surround yourself with people that push the propaganda of a fascist state, what does that make you?
That was a rhetorical question.
If they don't care, it should not be so unpopular, then.
I would describe it as “very concerning” rather than “nuanced”.
And I do believe the problem is bigger than many people are willing to admit. It’s worth discussing properly to me.
Here’s the US justification for the No vote.
If Russia actually cared about fighting Nazi ideology then Aleksandr Dugin’s ideas wouldn’t be so popular in the Kremlin.
I don’t know rick, the United States seems pretty nazi to me. Ukraine could have just hidden behind the abstention (like all the other pseudo-fascists cowards) and the motion would have not passed anyway. But they choose to vote against the glorification of nazism.
Yes, because as I just pointed out, they’re flatly rejecting a disinformation narrative that was in service of eroding their national sovereignty. Given this vote preceded their being invaded (again) by Russia, I can understand it. And again, Russia isn’t interested in eliminating far right ultranationalist sentiment; the call is coming from inside the house.
Not discussing all other points of the comment, but quick Google search is enough to find out that these photos were taken on November 4, 2013. To better understand their significance as an argument, it's worth adding that Viktor Yanukovych was the president of Ukraine on that day.