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That's why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that's left.
MAGA: We broke society, so now we can point at a broken society as an excuse for violence.
Eh, can't say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they're the violent arm of the sovereign
That's a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.
What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they're regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which "might makes right" and "survival of the fittest," conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.
That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said "might makes right" on a live TV interview.
Which is why I won't feel any sympathy for him when someone finally gives him his comeuppance
Time to show them just how fit they really are.
And why thr Geneva conventions exist.
I’m not sure that’s true anymore.
Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than "civilization" was "society"? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.