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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.

What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they're regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which "might makes right" and "survival of the fittest," conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said "might makes right" on a live TV interview.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago

Which is why I won't feel any sympathy for him when someone finally gives him his comeuppance