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[–] eneff@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Who is this "we" supposed to be?

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like tankies to me, but i guess its sort of vague

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It works for a lot of utopian movements with "Ends justify the means" thinking, tbqh.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, thats what i noticed about the vagueness. I believe it was intentional. Im just around a lot of tankies so it made me think of them first lol

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 8 points 4 months ago

This is the Leninist interpretation of Marxism. Which is what the vast majority of the authoritarian “communist” states of the 20th century were based upon.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Try Marxist-Leninists. I literally had this exact conversation the other day with two .ml users... They were trying to claim communism "actually totally works" because Russia/China/etcetc have proven it ... except they're not communist countries. They then went on to explain that, "no aktually having a ruling party that continues to segregate the population and elevate and protect their own positions is totally communism! You need to read more theory, because there has to be a transition to communism ..."

blah blah blah... They're literally too stupid to understand OP's joke. They unironically think that stuff.

[–] arcticx@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The withering of the state as a concept is a foundational part of ML theory and it does seem as though you’re being intentionally obtuse. I don’t think you would run into a ton of people who believe that OPs meme is an implausible situation as this is the exact reason continuous revolution exists as a concept. The transitional state has to be scrutinized so as not to become a tool of bourgeois capitalism once more.

So yeah to echo what the others said to you: you should read more theory. Your understanding of these concepts seems to be more memetic than anything.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

lol No, my understanding is not lacking. I know what ML prescribes and imagines. I disagree it's such a hopeful premise IRL.

It's also stupid to call any transitionary period 'communism' itself, either, much like supposedly China today.