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[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Americans have an obligation to clean up our own mess, China and Russia won’t come and do it for us, every person affected from a murdered Palestinian child to Maduro himself is on our hands

[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes. There is not going to be some cathartic cleansing of the US by outside forces. We have to do it ourselves.

Posting this because I think it's very relevant. I don't read it entirely literally because the article is about Western socialists who criticize AES, the people we would call ultras or leftcoms. I think if you take the article's principles to heart you can see a certain martyrdom and lack of rigor even among "tankies." Hexbear has been fairly good today while left reddit seems to be having some struggles.

Sentiments like:

  • World governments should destroy the US and me along with it
  • World governments should legally punish the US and remove my capitalist overlords from power for me
  • I would rather go die or be arrested doing adventurism this weekend than spend the rest of my life building socialism
  • I am going to go huff tear gas and fight cops this weekend as self-flagellation for the crimes of the US
  • I am going to hook by brain up all social media feeds and self-harm via a stream of war evangelism and horror images. This makes me brave for facing the truth and keeps me informed.
  • Doom doom doom because this just proves that empire is stronger than ever and only compromised socialism can exist as any real movement will be quickly snuffed out of existence.

World governments should destroy the US and me along with it

I-was-saying

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Treatlerites ain't gonna do shit, as long as the US continues to be the world's biggest consumer. Their government will continue to r ape and pillage the global South, as long as they can continue consuming their burgers and sportsball. The only hope really is a multipolar world with China and Russia to give some breathing room for countries in the crosshairs of Amerikkka. Looks like we're still a long ways from the multipolar world, and I fear and dread what will happen to Iran and Cuba next...

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Im simply saying there won’t be an external savior, us “treatlerites” are literally the only people able to stop the monster

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree but it also means we're doomed. Treatlerites doing shit for anti-imperialism has much less of a chance of happening than China doing anything.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

That’s dead end thinking for the majority of this website who inhabit the west. If the American proletariat will never rise up, then it means imperial communists don’t have to do anything since it’s impossible anyways

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conditions in the imperial core are gonna have to get a whole lot worse before that becomes a realistic possibility.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And conditions will get worse for everyone else until that happens. The solution is the same, revolution in the imperial core. Unless you think we should still wait for Russian and Chinese hand waving to stop worldwide Holocaust

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think and didn't say any such thing. I'm just saying things will get a whole lot worse before they get better, if they get better.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

We agree on that

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, we are part of "the world."

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Glad to hear it

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Americans have too much to lose. Im not gonna do a fedpost adventurism because i have people i need to take care of.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yep! Everyone has a legitimate reason to not die trying to change the system. Still has to happen or we all die under the boot

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Until the best chance of survival for citizens of the US changes from "keeping your head down" to "fighting back" nothing will change. And by that point, it'd all be lost.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Is this just to make yourself feel better about not changing anything? Because the best chance for survival will ALWAYS be on the side of empire. So it sounds like you’re just resigned to a life under the boot because you can’t disturb your comfort

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

“Fuck you got mine”. You don’t think every revolutionary and working class hero in history had something to lose? Organise or lose everything.