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Welcome to c/vegan@lemmy.world. Broadly, this community is a place to discuss veganism. Discussion on intersectional topics related to the animal rights movement are also encouraged.
What is Veganism?
'Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals ...'
— abridged definition from The Vegan Society
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Resources on Veganism
A compilation of many vegan resources/sites in a Google spreadsheet:
Here are some documentaries that are recommended to watch if planning to or have recently become vegan:
- You Will Never Look at Your Life in the Same Way Again
- Dominion (2018) (CW: gore, animal abuse)
Vegan Matrix Instance:
Vegan Dating App Veggly
Vegan Fediverse
Lemmy:
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Other Vegan Communities
General Vegan Comms
Circlejerk Comms
Vegan Food / Cooking
!homecooks@vegantheoryclub.org
Debate a Vegan
Vegan Food Scanner
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Yeah, harm reduction with a side of "it's often easier to go for the systematic change".
For example, one of the possible moral stances is that it's fine to "employ" animals for their animal products, so long as the relationship is beneficial for both sides and we take utmost care that the animal actually wants to be in that relationship.
But even people with that moral stance generally end up not eating animal products after all, because well, as you say, it is practically impossible to know what happens in the supply chain. They'd have to keep backyard chickens or such to actually know the supply chain, which is a lot of effort for eggs.
What if it's a cow that like does something shitty? Like it murders a kid on purpose and then even gets a trial with full due process. Is it cool to eat just that one?
I'm just kidding, haha. I fully support your diet. I tried it myself for one year experimentally when I was still competing in Muay Thai. It was pretty cool but my metabolism is way too fast to afford it.
Yeah, good bit of trolling. 😅 That's exactly why I mention it, because folks often cannot conceptualize giving up a particular food and just assume you have to take on every possible conflict to be able to still eat it as often as morally possible.
I mean, a vegan diet shouldn't need to be expensive, as legumes are the cheapest form of protein.
Of course, if you were eating lots of veggies along with the vegan diet, that can be pricy.
And there's lots of replicas of non-vegan foods, which are highly marketed and expensive as balls.
But yeah, beans, lentils, peas, peanuts etc. are super cheap and keep you satiated for a few hours.
It was more access and versatility of fats, as well as overall caloric intake. To note too, I'm a pretty unique case in this and not a good example anatomically/physiological relative to the norm. I walk around at about 125 naturally, and I'm 5'9. I fought at flyweight (125) pounds, so even though in day to day life I'm a very small guy, I was hillariously considered monstously huge in my weight class.
I'm 37 now, and I still have an insanely high metabolism and look the same. The issue I ran into in a nutshell is this was back in 2009ish, so access to a lot of alternative fats and proteins was considerably less, and with my freakish metabolism it was at the time extremely expensive.
I was also only twenty so there is a very fair to real chance I was also just a fucking idiot.