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Cope harder buddy, nobody buys that shite except you lot.
If nobody believes that China is rapidly improving living conditions for the working class why do Chinese people love their country so much?
The existence of patriots is evidence of improving working conditions now? Daym, USA must be the best country in the world.
It's not that people who love China exist at all, it's the fact that they're 90% of the population.
Uh huh, sure buddy
From https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
"Color revolutions" when facts don't match the narrative, impeccable trust when they do. So it goes...
this was your claim. That's what I was responding to. Nothing about color revolutions or whatever you're on about now.
Don't see how your link addresses my reply about LGBT-repression cope but ok.
I replied to that specific part elsewhere, and you got a reply from Cowbee that I think was better than mine.
You should check out hexbear, plenty of pro China queer people there!
Which is naturally a disgusting phenomenon to see queer people support oppression of people like them. But I guess needing to fit in is indeed a strong counter to cognitive dissonance.
Is queer support for Palestinian liberation "a disgusting phenomenon" as well, due to socially reactionary views from Hamas? Nobody supports China's lacking queer rights, but instead the fact that they are continuously improving, both in general and with respect to queer rights. The major obstacle in China with respect to queer rights are the social conservativism of older generations, it isn't a fixed, static aspect of China but a phenomenon caused by the new society still needing to overcome lingering elements of the old. It's the same for Palestine, social progress is something that unfolds over time and is expedited by progressive movements, such as national liberation from genocidal settler colonialism.
Funny how you run interference for bigots like that.
I'm not? Like I said, I support the LGBTQIA+ movements in China and Palestine. What I don't support is looking at social progression like it's a static, unmoving phenomenon intrinsic to Palestinians or Chinese people, or socialism. Try listening to what queer Palestinians and Chinese citizens are saying. They certainly aren't saying "I support the IDF over Hamas" or "overthrow the CPC!" Using Cuba as an example, they went from socially reactionary positions to passing one of the world's most progressive family codes precisely because of the emancipatory nature of Marxism-Leninism.
Or, maybe, you're the propagandized person programmed to look for reasons to hate China?
Yes, I should just disregard LGBT oppression from my camp like a good campist
But it isn't being disregarded. I think China should change a lot of things, LGBTQ rights included. If they did reforms like Cuba tomorrow it'd be a positive thing, for sure. But then there's still the issues of education, animal agriculture, corruption, liberalism growing in the CPC, among other things.
It just becomes really useless to have a discussion about politics when you adopt this "let's find the good guys and the bad guys" mindset, which I think ironically you might say is the essence of 'campism.' You're acting like the reason we like China is we think they're ontologically good and everything they do must be for a good reason, when that's just not true and an absolutely infantile way to see the world.
You don't have a camp
"Queer people disagreeing with me is disgusting" lol fuck off
Your willingness to disbelieve verifiable facts is not a good thing