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It seems the problem is most people can't begin to imagine what actually existing socialism looks like from the inside, without suspending their belief in generations of propaganda fed to us for several generations by our own states, and while we may be able to imagine how to work differently within the framework we have, can't imagine discarding that framework without something better to replace it. We can imagine bending the framework, but not building a different one before or during the process.
I wouldn't be surprised if most people imagine a socialist replacement looking a lot like what DOGE did, but here's a thing: we already have a blueprint for reimagining the existing framework ala New Deal, while we can also work toward building and implementing a new framework based on blueprints from AES states. Nobody is talking about taking a chainsaw to the current framework on day one.
Maybe what I'm saying isn't realistic, either but I'm open to having it picked apart.
The major difference between the New Deal and what socialists want is the replacement of bourgeois rule with proletarian, which does require axing the state and replacing it. The Party for Socialism and Liberation has a book called Socialist Reconstruction that goes over what that would look like in the US, including nationalizing the top 100 companies immediately.
Well I'm good with immediate nationalization of top companies, and cutting away bourgeois rule, too. I was offering a gentler transition, but now that I am thinking about Trotsky, that's a poorly thought idea.
Yep, the jump from capitalism to socialism is a qualitative leap before gradual quantitative buildup to a qualitative leap to communism. History progresses by leaps and bounds.
That's what I get ~~even~~ when posting while still being sleepy.
Haha, fair!