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Most people come to Marxism through being disaffected by the liberal systems we grow up in, work in, etc, and look to Marxist theory for answers. I actually came to anarchism first, found myself dissatisfied with it theoretically, then came to Marx. This leads us to organizing in real life, reading more theory, and gradually beginning to read western framing of socialist states and other designated "baddies" more critically, seeking a multi-sided and comprehensive view. There's a lot to unpack in your comment regarding preconceptions you have about China, largely being western, Red Scare style framing, but what I answered is why I'm a Marxist-Leninist and uphold socialist states as legitimate.
For a look at theory, I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list you can take a peak at.
How do you reconcile all the queer people and dissidents your dream states murder with the theory you read?
I don't have "dream states." No socialist country has ever or will ever be perfect. If we look at Cuba, they originally criminalized homosexuality. However, because Marxism-Leninism is an emancipatory ideology, socialist states generally were more progressive than the regimes they replaced, and continued to improve. Cuba now has one of the world's most progressive and queer friendly family codes, and has apologized vehemontly for how they treated queer people in the mid-20th century. By placing the working class in control, social progress is expedited.
As for "dissidents," the large majority were landlords, slavers, fascists, capitalists, murderers, terrorists, etc. I won't cape for them, and instead state that it's sheer brutal necessity that building up state power in socialist society is a necessary evil to protect the gains of socialism.
"Terrorists" seems general enough to include anarchists.
Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't. Anarchists largely joined the red army and the bolsheviks, with a minority joining the whites or forming their own cells. There wasn't a blanket "kill anarchists for thought crime" order, nor did the soviets sit back when groups like Makhnovschina started their banditry against soviet villages and camps.
I admire the inclusivity.
So state sanctioned murder is fine as long as you agree with who's getting murdered? That tells me all I need to know about your values, thanks.
Killing fascists, landlords, slavers, etc. is a good thing, yes.
not a tankie, but how would you deal with fascists, parasites, slavers, murderers, terrorists, etc.?
I just don't think giving the state license to mass murder its political enemies is a smart idea. I think steps need to be taken to prevent bad actors like that from harming people, but I'd favor an approach based more on education and rehabilitation than outright murder. Every innocent you wrongly deem an enemy of the state should be an unforgivable occurence, not the cost of doing business.
Ultimately I'd prefer no state apparatus exists that could wield that sort of power to mass murder members of the population. Even if constructed with the best of intentions it's corruptible and fallible.
I concur with you completely, but again, how do you prevent fascist genocides, landlord hostile evictions, slavers, state murderers (cops), terrorists, etc.? Education and Rehabilitation hasn't worked on them for 143 years, and science keeps proving why. RN, fascist are genociding in China, Gaza, US, Cambodia, etc.. And educated folks are letting it happen.
I disagree with your premise that it doesn't work, I don't believe many people have ever put serious effort towards that.
towards nonviolence, deescalation, and horizontal power?
you serious?
The criminal justice system seems more than capable. Mass murder & a hierarchy of uncontrolled government power/authority to abuse individual liberties aren't necessary.
nvm, overviewed your profile.
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Killing evil people is good, fucking duh
By not being fucking gullible lol
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