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After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying "99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in 'Tiny Man Square' [...] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda [...]," I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn't change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.

I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.

Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?

EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)

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Your comment brings a lot of reactions to my mind :

  • first, i appreciate it being straight and clear, and not falling in irony
  • i'd say there could be two ML types, the utilitarian one (which you seem to be) and the ideological one (which the post seems to point out), the difference being that you acknowledge the crimes it has and can produce as something at least not good
  • the ecological aspect has me quite confused, cause auth comm states are not doing that much for environmental issues and planet safety (except for China which is massively investing in research and industries for that but it also has a huge pollution debt on the other side) (and i guess USSR would not really count since it collapsed before environmental concerns)