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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I know it's a novelty account but you're still just being obnoxious and spreading hate under the guise of satire.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The entire argument of a woman meeting a bear or a random man in the woods is dumb from the start.

Most bears would run away from a human in the woods, a normal human is not seen as prey in most situations.

So this makes the argument more like asking:

Would you rather catch a glimpse of a bear in the woods or meet a random man in the woods?

Which makes far more sense both logically and emotionally, especially when people pick the bear over the man.

As a man, the original question about meeting a man or a bear in the woods, initially triggered a feeling of being compared to a lethal animal or certain death, and coming up short.

This obviously feels unfair to most men (and to be completely fair, it IS completely unfair to most men).

However, looking at the more realistic outcome of "meeting" a bear, i.e. catching a glimpse of it, it makes far more sense.

Sorry for the ramble, I am just annoyed at the stupid question and got caught up overanalyzing it.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Also, men who feel the need to argue about why choosing the bear is "wrong" are the reason that most women choose the bear in the first place.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When I first I saw this question, I was one of those who got triggered, but since then I found that this question was just ragebait.

As I stated above, it is perfectly resonable for a woman to prefer to catch a glimpse of a bear in the woods, than meeting a random man.

It is sad, but it is reality, and we can't loose sight of it as that will prevent progress.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, the women who would answer that question first, are the ones who had umm...experiences with men, not good ones.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's some incredible sexism, holy shit.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That the women most likely to engage with the question answer "bear" because they've been "umm'd" by men in the past? Yeah, that's... pretty textbook sexism.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

You'd have women who had absolute jerks for bf's, or you know...got SA'd, so they are more likely to pay attention to a questionnaire like that, and have a rather negative view of men as a whole. Social media also amplifies outrage, and tends to encourage certain attitudes.

We need to do an actual study imho.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 3 days ago

It's weird that we even assume people arguing the bear is wrong are men, I've had three people do that to me in this thread so far.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Tbf, if you meet a random man in the woods you're also not likely to be raped and murdered, which is the assumption the question is based on.

If we're to talk about actual probable outcomes the question becomes "would you rather glimpse a bear, or walk past a guy and say 'hey' to each other while you both continue along your respective paths."

I've seen many men while in the woods, at most we end up smoking a J together. This is a much more realistic outcome of "meeting" a man in the woods.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Wasn't it 'would you like to be alone in the woods with a bear or a man'?

Which is absolutely normal, you are alone in the woods with boars, deer and other creatures that would fuck you up if given no other choice almost every time you enter the forest. Bears are not much different here.

Men are a danger to women. And I get that most men don't agree, and that most men feel 'threatened' by such statement. But by rejecting that message, they are letting the dangerous men fly under the radar. And those statistics do not lie.

I have personally never seen a man attack a woman. That does not make the statistics false. I still understand that all women are right to feel scared and I that we should as a society accept that we all need to do better to stop any chauvinistic tendencies, objectification, and any disregard to any concerns, specially from women, JUST LIKE THIS BEAR ONE.

Bears alone in the woods will go about their way, some men who see a woman alone will assault her. That's the point, let's all stop acting like every man is like that. But even if 1% of men are like that, it's still safer to be with a bear.

But it's kind of the same as cops. Few rotten ones will spoil the bunch unless every honest one will speak up and demand justice when sees 'a buddy being silly'.

Even worse is that instead of men stepping up and admitting that 'hey, maybe we are the problem so let us brainstorm ideas' they go 'no fuck you I wish you were mauled'. Cause that's what every denial of this exercise is.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idk what you want me to do? I see the writing on the wall, I don't hate women, I just think it's over. Men have a really bad reputation, and I don't see how that can change.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, I'm sorry, from your username being "WorldsDumbestMan" I just assumed you were actually larping as the world's dumbest (bears aren't "certain death" and I assumed you were being factious. I've met plenty of bears in the forest, they're fine (if startling as hell)).

If you're sincerely asking what to do, just... maybe try to stop thinking of women as a separate category from men, for starters. Just treat them like people. You also very much don't have to solve this issue on your own, and the only realistic contribution you can make is to accept the current state and try to be the best person you can be while the cultural attitudes change for the better.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

I have a certain diagnosis, and self-esteem issues. It's getting more and more obvious that I'm probably just miss-diagnosed.

I will sometimes exaggerate my own stupidity and say dumb shit, but I'm mostly serious.

Regardless of how I treat women, the fact is that women don't feel safe around men, and this creates another division amongst people. And I could not in good faith, recommend a woman NOT carry a pepper spray around her, or bring a friend or two.

I'd understand if they also had friends with them around me too, or took an U-turn. Nothing personal I guess.