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[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The oppression they’re referring to is shooting at protestors wanting democratic reforms. The comment before that literally gives an example, the least you could do is look into it.

[–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

First of all, socialist governments, like any other government, did not use force on protestors unless provoked by seditious behavior (i.e. coup attempt or political unrest), and only in proportion, which was the case in Hungary and in China. Stories about tanks crushing the bodies of protestors is fictitious. Also, the history of the Soviet Union, the PRC and other socialist polities is filled with workers protests that were left unaltered because they are a natural part in the process of building socialism. Thus, the idea that freedom of expression was inexistent under socialism is false, which leads me to my second point.

The claim that the riots in socialist states called for "democratic" reforms is the furthest thing from the truth. In the case of Hungary, the 1956 uprising was orchestrated by the Prime Minister in order to establish a capitalist multi-party system and restore the property of the big landowners after they were purged in the preceding decade and their industries nationalized by the state. If you consider this to be "democracy" then you cannot consider yourself to be a leftist.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 0 points 20 hours ago

Thousands were killed in the uprising.

The demands largely emphasized national sovereignty and labor conditions, not restoration of appropriated property to the bourgeoisie.

Justifying an invasion, an act of aggression over international borders, under the characterization of sedition is simply begging the question of the legitimacy of the established structure of governance.

By this point, Soviet governance was failing to produce improved conditions for workers, and much of the working class was disinterested in further personal sacrifice for a prolonged struggle against the capitalist core.