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I couldn't figure out how supporting an Israeli state is Zionist. They have been back in Israel since like 1948. At this point, given the generations that have been born there, and given that people should be able to live on the planet they were born on, a two state solution is preferable so that both Palestinians and Israelis have a home. An Israeli state and a two state solution are not mutually exclusive conditions, therefore Mamdami's support of an Israeli state is not Zionist necessarily, unless I just misunderstand the definition.
The definition of "zionism" is supporting the existence of "Israel" in Palestine. A two-state "solution" is zionism. Jewish people can live in Palestine without having a state built on stolen land.
Reality disagrees with this assertion. Unfortunately, looking at the current state of things and the history that led to it, we can see that they are.
Israel doesn’t actually support a two state solution.
It’s great that those episodes were recorded before history started on October 7th, too.
I haven't heard about this. I can only read the text though. The media is blocked for some reason.
You can probably find those Citations Needed episodes on just about any place you can listen to podcasts, if that particular site doesn’t work. Here’s the first one on:
Zionism is anything that supports Israel as an ethnostate. You can support the idea that most Jews couldn't/shouldn't realistically be deported without supporting Israel continuing to exist as an ethnostate. That falls under the non-zionist "one state solution" umbrella (as opposed to the zionist one state solution, which is Israel's current actual project).
If the Nazis won in 45, would you say that the children of German settlers in Czechia or the Soviet Union should be able to live on the land they were born on?
I get what you're saying, but babies can't help where they are born. It's unfathomable that a baby born doesn't have the right to exist anywhere.
Sorry, you don’t get a stolen house just because you were born in it post-theft.
You’re clearly arguing for Nazi and Zionist settler colonialism, so long as the parents have a kid once they’ve massacred the original owners, if your universal principle is “babies (and by implication all children of settlers, even as adults/former babies) get to remain as an immovable force while the native population sucks it up”
In my country, a child is born a citizen even if the parents are criminals and here with no visa. But no, for fuck sake would everyone stop calling me a Nazi. I can't stand Israel right now and everyone goes straight to virtue signaling and calling people Nazis. Its so frustrating.
Oh, are you not proposing exactly what I’m laying out? You don’t exactly have a concrete plan for decolonization and restitution. All you can do is whine about former children and not understand how settler colonialism is bad