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Ok, but is Avatar even a proletarian film franchise? Yeah, one the one hand, the colonized natives kill space Americans, but it's also about a white guy who literally comes to inhabit an indigenous body and proves himself to be a better native than the actual natives.
Also they're dogshit movies. The first one was kinda neat, if you saw it in 3D, in 2009, but beyond that they're forgettable as hell ¯\(ツ)/¯
I kinda think they're subverting the white savior thing? There's some hints of that in the second movie, but I haven't seen the third yet so who knows
Having seen only Avatar: it's very entertaining as an enormous budget blockbuster that isn't completely morally bankrupt (as opposed to the usual defenders of the status quo capeslop) but I think it's fair to say it's not a visionary film. It's forgettable, generic, and has "unobtainium." You don't have to love it.
Again I only saw the first one but I hardly think they could be solid in every aspect. Every aspect? That's ridiculous.
First of all, they could stand to be a lot gayer. There's no time travel. Glaring lack of basketball B plot (leaving the basketball court in the base as an unfired Chekhov's gun). At best, I can give them points for tall women and hair sex. But my checklist's boxes are bereft of marks here.
It’s okay to hate Hollywood movies. Avatar is not not some cinematic masterpiece
I don't recall the first one super well, but the second one was genuinely wretched in so many ways. Even the visual effects which were touted so much just felt artless in their photorealism.
I think the writing/narrative has no impact and is entirely secondary to the visual aspects of the films. The visual aspects are absolutely groundbreaking and seriously advanced the state of the art of filmmaking.
Like, they've got someone who's job is to build a Navi conlang, which is a wasted effort if they're all speaking English regardless, but then they're also rendering water so perfectly it's indistinguishable from reality and crossing past the uncanny valley to have fully CG photorealistic characters.
I actually believe that.
Like, I couldn't tell you any of the characters names off the top of my head right now.
Their narrative is threadbare and really only in service of showing off a big visual spectacle.
I feel the same way about most Christopher Nolan movies too. Wtf were Inception or Tenent about? Idk, but they looked cool, I guess.
James Cameron has a similar thing going on with the Avatar movies