chat

8594 readers

112 users here now

Chat is a text only community for casual conversation, please keep shitposting to the absolute minimum. This is intended to be a separate space from c/chapotraphouse or the daily megathread. Chat does this by being a long-form community where topics will remain from day to day unlike the megathread, and it is distinct from c/chapotraphouse in that we ask you to engage in this community in a genuine way. Please keep shitposting, bits, and irony to a minimum.

As with all communities posts need to abide by the code of conduct, additionally moderators will remove any posts or comments deemed to be inappropriate.

Thank you and happy chatting!

founded 4 years ago

MODERATORS

SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net

Sulvy@hexbear.net

oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net

Wakmrow@hexbear.net

LeninWeave@hexbear.net

abc@hexbear.net

how do you avoid getting blackpilled/paralyzed by climate change (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by WhyEssEff@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

52 comments fedilink hide all child comments

like holy shit the bourgeoisie are trying to kill us all actively en masse within our lifetimes and all movement against it feels like it has died come the 20s. Every time it gets brought up it feels like people are either revelling in it, are denying it, are too tired to care, say “someone's going to fix it so there's no point in worrying," or get angry asking "well what do you want me to do about it I can't fix it" or something. It feels like we're in a moment where we have just abandoned science all together in the decaying west, so the plan is almost like to keep attacking the biosphere out of spite for everyone around us.

It feels Lovecraftian, I can't think about it because every time I do it paralyzes me in awe of the urgency and scope of what has to be done. Do I just stop thinking about it? I guess the answer is to keep organizing but I'm scared that we don't have enough time at this rate to address it before it gets catastrophic and has irreversible effects

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

At this point, imo, we are more or less locked into at least the end of modern industrialized society, and the deaths of billions. These deaths will be due largely due to food shortages (at some point, it won't be possible to grow rice in SEA and that means famine) and forced migration, though also nuclear conflict breaking out, see eg the violation of the Pakistan/India Indus River treaty being explicitly named by Pakistan as an existential threat justifying nuclear war.

I also think it's basically impossible for us to "win" given that it would more or less require the death of the USA, whether by revolution or a very, very rapid collapse that burns through the fascist death drive remnants in short order, both ending within 5-10 years. I don't think it's likely that anything we do will matter, as what the US government actually does has nothing to do with what the people living in the US want, and the conditions are nowhere near a revolution, so even organizing probably won't accomplish anything.

But what if I'm wrong? What if getting out there and organizing actually works, and the ever-escalating crackdowns on the climate movement eventually make it so liberal co-option is no longer possible, and cause a backlash resulting in enough people turning for us to eke out a "win"? I don't think it's likely, but if my choices are to treat it as a 1% chance of winning or a 0% chance, well I might as well bet on the 1% because at least that's something. And it would also mean I'd get to watch some billionaires get what's coming to them.