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[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, all of these services should perish. But if you repeatedly chose to build community on a for-profit service that is bleeding money, you can't complain that it eventually runs out and either goes bankrupt or is restructured to make more money. Valente wants the perks of a site that spends a lot of money, but democratic government and no annoying ads or tracking.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Again, there are only two sensible ways out:

  1. Stop doing that. We really don't need Twitter to exist.
  2. We agree as a society that we do need Twitter to exist and it is a public good, so we create it as any other piece of important public infrastructure and use taxes to finance it.
[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I agree that "publicly owned, publicly funded" would be a fine option (but which public? Is twitter global or for the USA or for California?) Good luck making the case for $5 billion/year new tax revenues to fund that new expense. Until then, there are small janky services on the Fediverse which rely on donations and volunteer work.

[–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

take it out of the military budget, should be less than a rounding error

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago

Alternate (likely harebrained) idea: sell the fediverse as a national security thing, and try to get a defence contract out of it

Reducing government/military reliance on tech corps would reduce the leverage they (and their CEOs) have over them, reducing the risk of, say, a repeat of that time Elon Musk fucked over Ukraine).