Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.
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I jumped in .ml by random and it's crazy how had the hate is. If you find a good intance DM me sir.
It's weird, I hopped off ML due to how much hate other users were giving me, but I never actually experienced anything from the ML users themselves. I did stay off the politics subs, so that's maybe why, but it was genuinely quite a chill instance for me.
Anyway I'm on UK now, and people seem to treat me nicer
It's similar in Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net. Very chill usually, it's the hatred they get from liberal-aligned instances that sparks all of the drama.
I agree. Whenever there's a post about .ml users it comes from .world.
I understand if there's political differences, but they incessantly try to vilify the whole instance.
You let them bully you into changing instances lol
I did. Have you not met some of these people? I've got kids, man
Early on I poked around ml, and it wasn't so much hate but more like some really... interesting views on how to organize politically
It boiled down to "unite the workers of the world and seize the means of production", but like... That was it. No answer to how to do that, or what to do next
The most annoying part was honestly just how hard some of them simp for China and Russia, sometimes even North Korea
Marxists absolutely have advice on how to organize, the problem is that it's very regional. Some parties are good, others are horrid, but the basics are to find a good organization local to you and join it. Protesting, reading theory, doing direct action and mutual aid, unionizing and striking, all are good ways to organize.
None of us "simp" for the PRC or DPRK, and certainly not for the Russian Federation. We support socialist countries and critically support those working against the US empire.
Marxists do. Ml? It's like... Unite the workers of the world by teaching then dielectrical materialism!
No... No. That's not how reality works. You do have to restrict your ideology to reality, I don't mind if your ideas spill over the sides, but they do have to exist in material reality
I'm not sure I follow your point. The Leninist aspects of Marxism-Leninism are mostly Lenin's analysis of imperialism, the heights of which capitalism had not quite reached in Marx's time, and in practical organizational theory. Marxism-Leninism posits that we should create a working class party, study the given conditions of the country we are in (history, contradictions, class struggle) in order to correctly identify the key issues to organize around. In doing so, the working class needs to gradually choose the vanguard party, meaning a vanguard party that fails to do so is no vanguard. Only then, when the conditions of revolution appear, can the vanguard direct the great quantity of the working class to achieve a qualitative change in society, into socialism.
Marxism-Leninism is based on practical struggle, based on reality, on the material world. The point of philosophy is to change the world for the better, not simply understand it. Education is merely one aspect of Marxist-Leninist praxis, used to create more effective revolutionaries, but is by no means the only.
Yeah, I have to admit the anti-US sentiment did align nicely with my eurocentric views. But the pro-Russia and pro-China sentiment did not jell with me very well, and was a factor of why I left
There’s very little disagreement among .ml users because .ml is so heavily moderated. As an insider, it looks like calm waters all around you. But other instances easily see the dissent getting quashed, and only deal with the .ml users spouting insane comments on non-ml communities.
That's fair. Again, I never saw any of that. It was just the calm waters
hexbear.net
ROFL, About 7 in 10 of my interactions with .ml are either positive or neutral
The vocal side of hexbear is almost completely unhinged.
Calling leftists "almost completely unhinged" is more of a self-tell than anything.
I mean....they didn't call "leftist" unhinged, they specified a specific group.
Hexbear does not equate to all leftist, and leftism does not equate to Hexbear.
The overwhelming majority of the time people have issues with Hexbear, it's the leftism.
This is essentially gaslighting. Almost every time I saw a reply that was so out of line toxic was from hexbear. Ex: "disgusting capitalist bootlicker. Kys." under a post saying we should vote for Biden. I can go find these actual words on the post that was titled "get out and vote!" with an image that said "not voting is a vote for trump" if you want.
Voting for a genocidal imperialist warmonger isn't leftist, so it makes sense that leftists oppose that. I'm not gaslighting, you're kinda proving my point, it's the leftism that's the issue.
This is the only thing I am responding to. Almost every comment on the defederation from hexbear thread said it was because of toxicity, not ideology. If a vegan says to someone "kys carnist, crawl into a hole and die," and gets banned, they didn't get banned for being vegan.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/4281207
For anyone who actually cares to look at all the people discussing their negative experiences with hexbear users.
Bonus meme: my identical comment made by someone else on the instance: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/2928583
nice try tankie.
Ah yes, that should fix it.
Oh shoot I broke the rule in the meme!
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