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I read in the previous comment "american capitalists". Which is a step up from elsewhere. But yes, also, Russia isn't anywhere near as bad as the formerly united states. Not when averaged over the past decades since WW2. However, at this very moment, Russia is worse - because for once, that other shithole regime has no hot war ongoing. Unless you count their assistance towards the genocide and otjer war crimes committed against the palestinian people. At which point it becomes a tie again in terms of evilness :(
The former United States? In the same time line that russia has been around, they've done way more than the USA has done. You can't even begin to compare the two. One literally sided with Nazis and has killed millions via famine. The USA has some atrocious imperialism but we're not russia level of murdering.
The other is USSR
How delusional do you have to be to believe that is beyond my comprehension. I guess this is the end result of the american education system.
The US is directly responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths from famine, horrendous working conditions, or just outright war, all around the global south. Heck, it was founded upon genocide of immense proportions (96% of native population eradicated), which was so bad that nazis used it as a blueprint for the holocaust.
Russian war crimes in Ukraine are horrible but are nothing compared to the hell on earth created by your fascist country in just the last two years. Compare the civilian death tool in Gaza vs Ukraine to see for yourself. In absolute terms, your country is the single most evil entity on this planet.
This does not excuse putin and his cronies, I hope to see them all do hard labor in prison for the rest of their miserable existence, together with all american presidents and their accomplices.
Yea I forgot how the USSR going away meant that russia which ran the USSR didn't side with the Nazis.
Considering your idea of "it wasn't russia" is to ignore everything russia has done in the past. To you, russia has only existed since 1991 apparently.
The fuck are you on about, the US hasn't been around long enough to pull hundreds of millions of deaths. On top of that you're suggesting that it's murdered over half the population of the global South...
The native Americans bit was %100 fucked up, but let's not forget Russia doing the same/worse...Circassian genocide go read up on it.
Wait gaza is on us now? If that's the case then...
https://united24media.com/world/all-the-toppled-authoritarian-dictators-russia-gave-asylum-to-over-the-years-4335
All of these dictators are on russia....assad is in the list
Sounds kinda like you are excusing them...this entire thread has been you excusing them with whataboutism of the USA...and getting your facts all kinds of messed up.
Tankies gonna tank.
Both the west and USSR made deals with the nazis all the way until the war. Many US capitalists invested or outright donated to the reich.
Once the war began, USSR was the principal country which defeated nazis, look at the numbers of nazi soldiers who fought and died on western vs. eastern front. The US meanwhile sheltered nazi war criminals after the war.
US has been around for almost 250 years, and involved in a genocidal imperialist war (or at least a fascist coup) of some kind for almost that entire time. The hundreds of millions of excess deaths figure is a lower bound.
Currently, Global South is ~6 billion people (depending on which countries you count in), what are you on about...
Yes, guess who's providing all the cash, weapons, intelligence, diplomatic and military support to the genociders? US is directly responsible for the ongoing genocide, stop sending money&weapons and it ends in a week.
To be honest, Ukraine war is like 30% on US too, they supported outright nazis during Maidan which led to some real discontent in the east, which was abused by Russia to start the war.
Still magnitudes less bad than US shit. Look at the list of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change, except for like 5 countries during WW2 it's mostly fascist dictators being installed.
Re-read all my messages. I am not excusing russia. I am just clarifying that the issues with the US are not due to Russia, they are due to the system of surplus value extraction and imperialism which has been around for its entire existence. Focusing on russia and russian influence will not help you at all, in much the same way as deporting immigrants won't help the MAGAts.
Current russian dictatorship is the shittiest since late-stage stalinism, but trump and republicans were not elected "on behalf of russia", they were elected on behalf of your own billionaires trying to gain influence and extract more profit.
This thread is about a meme blaming neocon fascism, the most american thing in existence, on russia.
Your culture is so obsessed with the red scare bullshit that a twisted version of it now percolated into liberal or even progressive circles, which is really convenient for the ruling class. Open your eyes, know your main enemy.
Do you think there's anything "united" left about that clusterfuck between Canada and Mexico?
Yea, I do. We're not at a civil war yet and people are waking up to the fascist lies and trying to turn the ship around. Can't exactly say that for russia, which the majority of support the war in Ukraine still.
Well - from the outside it certainly doesn't look united anymore. And your comparison does not make sense. Russia neither has a civil war ongoing for now, nor are the average citizens discernibly any less or any more brainwashed than in the divided states.
And from a European perspective, both are threatening our continent & freedoms.
We're still able to call out our politicians and protest without falling out of a window or being meat fodder for an invasion.
That is no longer true for many people. Just that they don't fall out a window, they get murdered by rabid pedo-criminal supporters, or shot by "police" or deported by ICE. And being meat fodder for invasions has been the fate of many people from low income sectors for decades. Only that the divided states have mostly focused on invading countries who could not fight back.
Compared to china/russia/NK it's %100 true. I can still protest, and do. Stop acting like the USA has lost everything just because we have a clown show going on.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes. If you think 100% anything is a thing in state forms, you are very gullible. I am not acting like the divided states shithole regime has anything, I am observing what is happening. Even in Western Europe, protestors suffer from police violence - in the divided states, more often than not, such violence is lethal.
That's happened throughout history, but it never was a tiananmen square level event. So let's stop trying to compare the USA/EU to russia and china on freedom of protest or anything else. We can still protest without worrying about having the military run us over with tanks.
You are delusional if you think that people in the divided states are significantly more free than they are in Russia or China. But that just shows the media brainwashing is working well. Our (I intentionally include Europe here) crimes against humanity are just committed elsewhere and reported upon differently. Thinking we are better off is us functioning "as intended" so we don't actually do something about it.
ROFL yeah I'm the one brainwashed. You literally think russians or chinese are more free than us lol.
One is sending their people into a meat grinder to be killed...and the other has social credits and forced "re-education camps" of uyghurs.
Lol yes I'm the one eating propaganda
Fucking tankies
You can't even grasp the semantics of an English sentence. How about you work on that before engaging in arguments?
Don't forget the 16 million ppl dying from USAID being cut
Yes because pulling aid is the same as a forced famine.
"Forced famine" lol
Holodomor
Go back to reading RT articles like they're facts lol
Unlike you I actually have read about it, a famine occuring in a region plagued by recurring famines for all of recorded history lol, try harder
Bahahahaha yea that's it. Wasn't russia at all rofl
I'm right, cry about it
Kk kid
Cope
I mean... people are dead and we could have done something about it. It's the same picture to me bc the result is the same: "We're not taking care of each other well."
One is literally killing people because you hate them. The other is pulling aid you were providing out of caring. Not even the same thing.
Removing the aid is bullshit and needs to be put back in place.
But let's not compare it to a forced famine.
Lol anything's possible when you make shit up kiddo
Rich coming from someone who's got the mind of a child to think communism is the best thing ever, and it'll work this time. Lol
"It'll work this time" lol if people like you made the decisions we would have given up on inventing planes, you're a coward and a fool
Go tankie somewhere else. You're just maga wearing a hammer and sickle. You types think communism will work this time cause you'll be in charge. Bad news champ, you'll be digging ditches.
"conservatives and communists are the same" lol you're politically illiterate, cope
Kk kid
Log off and go read a book
Lol you nearly have half the amount of comments I do in 9 months time when it took me almost 3 years to make the amount I have. Sounds like you need to go touch grass kid, it's not healthy being online so much.
And? Your comments are stupid, I'm grateful that there are less of them but you're clearly not equipped to participate in discussion or give advice on anything
Lol ok kid
Weak, try harder