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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea I forgot how the USSR going away meant that russia which ran the USSR didn’t side with the Nazis.

Both the west and USSR made deals with the nazis all the way until the war. Many US capitalists invested or outright donated to the reich.

Once the war began, USSR was the principal country which defeated nazis, look at the numbers of nazi soldiers who fought and died on western vs. eastern front. The US meanwhile sheltered nazi war criminals after the war.

The fuck are you on about, the US hasn’t been around long enough to pull hundreds of millions of deaths

US has been around for almost 250 years, and involved in a genocidal imperialist war (or at least a fascist coup) of some kind for almost that entire time. The hundreds of millions of excess deaths figure is a lower bound.

On top of that you’re suggesting that it’s murdered over half the population of the global South…

Currently, Global South is ~6 billion people (depending on which countries you count in), what are you on about...

Wait gaza is on us now?

Yes, guess who's providing all the cash, weapons, intelligence, diplomatic and military support to the genociders? US is directly responsible for the ongoing genocide, stop sending money&weapons and it ends in a week.

To be honest, Ukraine war is like 30% on US too, they supported outright nazis during Maidan which led to some real discontent in the east, which was abused by Russia to start the war.

All of these dictators are on russia…assad is in the list

Still magnitudes less bad than US shit. Look at the list of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change, except for like 5 countries during WW2 it's mostly fascist dictators being installed.

Sounds kinda like you are excusing them

Re-read all my messages. I am not excusing russia. I am just clarifying that the issues with the US are not due to Russia, they are due to the system of surplus value extraction and imperialism which has been around for its entire existence. Focusing on russia and russian influence will not help you at all, in much the same way as deporting immigrants won't help the MAGAts.

Current russian dictatorship is the shittiest since late-stage stalinism, but trump and republicans were not elected "on behalf of russia", they were elected on behalf of your own billionaires trying to gain influence and extract more profit.

this entire thread has been you excusing them with whataboutism of the USA

This thread is about a meme blaming neocon fascism, the most american thing in existence, on russia.

Your culture is so obsessed with the red scare bullshit that a twisted version of it now percolated into liberal or even progressive circles, which is really convenient for the ruling class. Open your eyes, know your main enemy.