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How is it that no CEO sees the writing on the wall and goes "you know what? Everyone's sick of AI and it's a great opportunity for PR if we just said we're NOT going to integrate AI anytime soon."
That will actually differentiate your company from the sea of "embracing AI as the future" everyone else is doing. Especially for an open source company, surely they've done user demographic studies and realized that they have more anti-AI users than most mainstream software, why not cater to them when no one else is, and secure their good will?
But not everyone are ! But a group of people have gone to the 'hate the tool' corner, are very aggressive and feel that 'everybody else hates it'. But 'we'/'they' don't - some do.
Any software/tool that leaves it up to the user if they want to use such a feature or not, are okay. Open source and Foss doesn't exclude the use of AI, and 'catering' to a special group of angry people that just want to remove the option entirely for everyone else, is not very 'community' aligned in my view.
There will be plenty of clones that pull out this or that part of the official source tree, so nobody will lack a normal browser. I currently use 'Zen' and I had to 'force' AI on. Other will just remove it entirely.
Still, I feel this would have been much better received if they made an extension. That's literally the point of having an extension system, so people can download optional features they like without it being forced on everyone. Nothing about their AI features I've seen requires direct integration with the app and can't be done with the already very powerful extension APIs (then again I didn't develop it so there could be details I'm missing).
Or if it supported custom Ollama APIs as an option, so people can host their own AI. People tend to be more supportive of that since you directly control both your data and the energy consumption. Instead your options are the biggest commercial cloud AI providers that people have by far the most problem with. For something like summarizing a webpage a small local model running on CPU works fine. If they truly see generative AI as the future, then they should know there's more to the technology than just using commercial APIs.
I actually don't blanket hate generative AI as a whole, but their implementation of it is the exact same as every other software company and has all the same problems with no unique solutions that differentiate Firefox from proprietary browsers with much more mature AI features. That's what I don't like about the direction they're going. If you specifically want AI in your browser, there's no reason to go with Firefox over Chrome or Edge; if you care about privacy or FOSS, AI on Firefox is no better because you still can't use an open source model you control; and if you hate any generative AI in general, they've just alienated you, possibly permanently, by including it by default. Firefox keeps wanting to be like the mainstream browsers while forgetting about the niche that's allowed them to thrive when every other browser fell to Chrome.
do we need them wasting resources on superfluous chatbots, when i can already get many already good and estabilished options elsewhere whenever i want to use them?
not everything needs this overestimated tool shoehorned in, regardless of whether or not people like to use it in any of its forms, and mozilla is not in a position where they can just waste time and resources like this because ai hype.
Ah yes, just like Vivaldi is now the #1 browser now that they've adopted this strategy.
If they were smart they would hedge and use AI but not call it AI. Actually build a product that leverages AI and give it an appropriate name.
like their own offline translating engine!
Yeah, you know, like literally any piece of software they do.
It’s like getting all hyped up over linked lists.
I love linked lists! But they don’t need to be plastered all over the logo and in my search bar and endorsed as “the future” by CEOs.