Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
!feminism@beehaw.org
!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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Stop going to capitalistic places. OFC the "community" at the climbing gym would be organized around things you have to pay for. OFC a game shop would prefer if you were a customer ontop of a participant. etc etc.
what non capitalistic places are there then, pray tell. outside of religious organizations?
The ones not ran by a corporation? Try finding meetups through various forums or apps and whatnot. Find a group doing things you want to do. Lots of places have casual hiking groups for an example. Of course what is available will depend heavily on what people around you are doing.
Religous groups can be an OK community, but of course dealing with all the BS gets old real fast.
Best thing to do would be to make friends that you can do your own stuff with, though of course that requires making friends first.
all my friends ever want to do is go out and spend lots of money. weird how that works.
even the ones i met from 'free' events.
Find better friends? Shouldn't be hard to find people that basically only ask for BYOB.
right, and get a better job, and get a better car, and get bigger house... oh right, we're being 'anti-capitalist' by doing those things... right?
there are no 'better' friends. my friends are human beings. that is what human beings do. they consume. you seem to think they live in some parallel university where everything is free. i mean, yeah i know some dumpster divers... funny thing about those folks is they have trust funds. pretty easy to be a 'freegan' when mom and dad pay your bills and you the get to spend your money on festivals instead of food.
ironically it's the most money obsessed people I've ever met were the most 'feminist' ones. and the worst friends, because they were raging hypocrites about almost everything. the friends i have now are at least honest about just wanting to get a beer or see a show or watch a ballgame. it's nice being around people who lack pretense and just want to enjoy life without filtering through some weird ideology.
You have such a negative view on everything, no wonder you cannot find chill friends... You surely scare them off long before a frienship could grow...
i'll stop being 'negative' when people start following the virtues they love to preach, instead of doing the opposite and holding endless double standards for themselves.... just like the author of the article.
Don't have a dog, do you? A local library? A lake? Go fishing, read a book, walk your dog. If you can't find "non-capitalistic" spaces, then it's you.
those all require fees to use. library card costs money, using hte library space, money. fishing licence, money. dog, lots of money. my dog costs me about 2 grand a year for vet, food, and licenses. absolutely none of them are free.
so many of the posts here come across like you all have no real world experience...
Says the person that's buying library cards...
where do you live that they are free? mine cost $20 and then $10 to replace. They also expire after 2 years. It's cheap, but not free.
New books can only be rented for 1 week, old books for 3. After that you have to pay late fees.
Nothing is free.
NM. Just bring in proof of residency, like a utility bill, and boom. Free library card.
NM is a weird outlier state. Poor, but very progressive. You guys now have that free childcare. Crazy. Where I live childcare costs 4000-2500 a month. Highest childcare costs in the nation.
We don't do free stuff here the northeast. Even our public schools now have usage fees for extracurricular activities like sports or music. My nephew runs track... and has to pay $300 per semester just to be on the team. Baseball/football is 2-3x that.
Wanna know what's really crazy? We pay for that (and free community college too!) by, drumroll please:
Taxing The Oil And Gas Industry.
Totally crazy, i know.
not every state has an oil and gas industry to tax.