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This is a cool show. I can't help but hate Carol, and I can't figure out if the show is trying to make me hate her or if she really is supposed to be some kind of antihero. It's interesting that we have very little information about what the lives of the other individuals were like before the joining. Carol is very petit bourgeois coded, clearly your archetypical western chauvinist. She's basically monolingual, a fantasy slop mogul, deeply uncurious, self centered, and stubborn. She assumes that everyone else who is unjoined is of the same mind set, and the only other character aligned with her appears to be even more antisocial then she is.

It's hard to say what this show is really about. There was that throw away line in the second or third episode where Carol says she is the "second greatest mass murder next to Stalin" and you could read this so many ways. Yet the show makes it very clear that the world Carol wants to return to is one full of harm and violence. That her resistance to this situation actively kills people

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a show that doesn't know how it ends and keeps running on a treadmill for several sessions.

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[โ€“] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Vince Gilligan has openly stated that they're trying their damnedest to subvert almost every zombie apocalypse trope. The people within the Joining are all happy and explicitly have all their faculties and want to be a part of it (if only because the psychic glue commands them to). They're eating people because corpses are just a shitload of calories to allow to go to waste when your behavioral imperatives prevent harvesting food. Carol's slow downward spiral in episode 7 does a pretty good job getting across that just as the tagline says she is the most miserable person on Earth, and the least popular by far. There's essentially only 14 other people on the planet now, and the one with 7.7 billion bodies has been avoiding her while another 11 shun her and the last one seems to be a bit unhinged and is absolutely shaping up to be some sort of villain.

I don't know why people say this isn't going anywhere. It's a heavily character-focused story, much like everything else Gilligan's made. The guy is good at doing slow burns. He's proven it. I have enough patience and trust in the story to want to see where it's going. Every revelation about the hive mind so far has been substantial and painted a deeper picture of the world. Christ's sake I have severe ADHD and I feel like so many people have media takes stemming from a miniscule attention span. Maybe it also helps that I spent years nitpicking absolutely every piece of media and ruining it for myself and now try to find the unique parts that shine through all the noise. I love this show so far. It's fucking hilarious. It's an intriguing premise. And I actually like watching Carol be miserable and slowly realizing she's doing it to herself by being a raging bitch and refusing to see any other perspectives at all. And it makes it very easy to get into her headspace. She sees that the world has essentially ended and nobody else is concerned. Nobody else seems to understand it, as far as she can tell, but maybe it's because her only real human connection died in the Joining and she's extremely alienated by the Hive using her dead wife's memories to try and butter her up while she's still in absolute shock from both the Joining and her sudden loss and grief and total absence of anyone to share it with. Everyone else has family members who are still alive and are now suddenly nicer, smarter, and more capable than they've ever been. Diabate comes across as a man who probably had absolutely nothing before and now feels like he gets to play in Creative Mode.

I think what the show is about is just how these 13 individuals are dealing with an irreversible apocalypse. I don't think it's a certainty that Carol will reverse the Joining; this could be a Childhood's End situation. I want to see where it goes.

[โ€“] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

i don't know why but Gilligan's slow burns mostly hold my attention and i can actually watch them unlike various boring things i can't get into. it's weird to me that people with brains less broken than mine don't get engaged.

I think what the show is about is just how these 13 individuals are dealing with an irreversible apocalypse

so far it's not showing us much about how most of the others are doing