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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Nazis are in Ukraine, and Nazis are bad people that should be stopped.

Russia is using this as an excuse for a shameless land grab.

These are not mutually exclusive statements.

IMO, it really wouldn't be all that different to the US using the cartels as an excuse to invade Mexico and slurp up some new land. And yeah, I'm aware that Republicans are already talking about it, because they just can't stop themselves from any% speedrunning the worst takes possible. To be completely frank, I wonder if Russia would keep giving a shit about the Nazis once they've taken the land. IIRC, like basically everyone else right now, Russia itself has an embarrassingly bad Nazi problem, so maybe Russia will invade Russia next.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 92 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to put a bunch of preludes and explain myself etc.

But man, you really think Russia invaded because of a “land grab”? Does that make any sense to you?

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

But man, you really think Russia invaded because of a “land grab”? Does that make any sense to you?

I mean, how many wars have Russians started in the past for access to a warm water port? Shit, how many times have they fought over just the Crimea? Access to the black sea has been one of the most strategically important national goals for Russia throughout history.

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Not the dreaded warm water port discussion. When will we ever grow as a society?

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Honestly, give climate change another 30-40 years and it prob won't be an issue you hear about ever again.

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